k, well i should be able to advance timing about 5 degrees all around and keep my boost at 23 psi on strait 110.

 

Cheapest? Under a 100$ easy ... With YOUR car of course.

1. Remove AC, interior, trunk
2. learn to drive w/o lifting or call a ringer like Curt Brown
3. VP import race gas
4. MBC... or for the cheapo record pull the vacum line of the WG actuator.
5. drop the exhaust after DP.

 

have you tried shifting to 5th warr? not right at the line, but maybe a bit early, at like 7300?

i can't wait to get to the track at some sub 70 temps...around 50 is best. Im going back next weekend...we'll see what happens then.

Im just going to unplug the alky kit, as i don't imagine it'll do me much good with c16, but it might for cooling factor.

Im going to hate to try and tune at the track, but i can't waste 10 bucks a gallon on c16 otherwise.

 

cool... I'm going for sure.

 

LOL. i think we all know that. I was implying without tearing your car apart.

 

I raise my hand 11.95 @ 114 stock cams.

 

Holy Crap....

What did you trap with cams in?

Mods?

 

I put a bigger turbo in before the 272 cams, so it's not comparable. I did make a few 93 pumpgas runs with the 272 and stock turbo later, and went 112mph, but et was poor 12.3 or something. I was experimenting with nitrous that night, and only made one run without it, wasn't really trying to tune it for stock turbo/cams/pump. Im sure I could do better than that.

 

AS for cheapest mods to go 11's in a full weight evo:

3" Exhaust
Walbro pump
1G DSM bov
Hallman MBC
ACT Clutch
NOS single fogger wet kit
Racegas
AFC or reflash to fine tune

I think anyone could go solid 11's run after run. The basic mods should make the car run mid to low 12's if driven and tuned well. A 50 shot of nitrous would put it into the 11's. once you get a handle on the tuning/driving, bump the shot to 100hp and see some 11.3-11.5s.

your never going to touch those times with cams, fmic, ic pipes, turbo upgrades for the same $650 price. ($550 kit + $40 bottle fill + $40 pressure gauge + $20 for jets)

It should be a law that anytime someone asks "what's the cheapest way to go XXX fast?" that nitrous is part of the answer!

 

No, it should be a law that nitrous is not allowed in the conversation. We're talking real mods here...

 

AHAHA That was funny. I normally agree with you on most things, as you do know your way down the dragstrip, but that comment was about the most ignorant thing I have heard from you.

Not a real mod? ok, Ill imagine the nitrous, you pretend it's not there. nitrous user will still spend less and smoke you down the track.

 

you can also get around the racegas by doing something pretty trick. Run an off the shelf alky kit, and plumb the -4 alky line into the fuel side of the nitrous fogger. Roughly double the jet size of the recomended fuel jet to account for the stoich change of meth vs gas. Run the 50 shot with pumpgas in the tank.

use the pressure switch on the alky kit pump to ground the relay that activates the nitrous solonoids. This keeps the nitrous from coming on untill the alky is flowing. Also failsafes if the pump clogs/breaks.

you get the octane/fuel advantage of meth, and don't have to screw with your tune/boost to make use of it. simple on/off switch.

 

im a nitrous noob, really. can you run nitrous and lots of boost and timing? i mean, what can you replace on my list with the nitrous? cams? i guess thats teh only thing i could fathom.

 

answer my post above and:

coudn't you just run the 'gas' line for the nitrous wet kit directly to a meth kit, and not spray any gasoline in with it at all? or a nice tank where you can pre-mix c16 and meth...could that work>?

 

take out the cams, replace with nitrous. The nitrous can make 100whp, the cams can make 25 at best. Roughly same price.

you can run the nitrous on top of your normal full boost with slight timing retard. a 50 shot requires almost nothing for timing map change, 100shot needs about 2-3* taken out. Your AFC or reflash can accomplish this. Your AFC even has 2 maps, use one for when the nitrous is on, one for normal use.

If you run racegas, you can run the 100 shot with no timing retard on top of all the boost your stock turbo can make.