cheapest way into the 11s (my idea)
Before I bought my EVO I ran an 80hp shot of nitrous for over 3yrs on my daily driver and had no problems with it. I probably used over thirty 10lb bottles of it. The only people who didnt respect me because I was running nitrous were the people who had spent more money on their cars to still run slower times. People who put a turbo on their civic, spending way more cash than I, who still ran slower times. Also, I'am by no means an expert on nitrous but I did do my research before I bought it and had the car dyno'ed with a wideband as I increased the HP shot to make sure nothing was running lean and the right jets were being used for my application. People have told me that because I have a turbo its cheating beause their car is a N/A car and im sure anyone would agree thats just stupid. Same goes with nitrous..its not cheating, cheating is slashing the tires of the guy your about to race. Just my 2 cents. Oh, it was said earlier in the post that nitrous is by no means feasible for daily driving....I guess im proof that statement is wrong since I drove everyday for 3 years with it. I think people who want to jump on the "nitrous is bad" bandwagon should take some time to learn about it.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I'm also sorry you wasted all that time typing that stuff. What you fail to realize (due to my not explaining properly?) is that you are very wrong in thinking that I'd be a convert when I go from 12.0 to 11.4, or whatever, because I have no respect for someone who uses nitrous, nor do I pay any attention to anyone's accomplishments that were done due to nitrous. It is not an acceptable or respected form of horsepower in my opinion, and yes it is dangerous, regardless of your experience level. It is by no means feasible for daily driving.
I see you have no fact filled response to my questions to back up your claims of nitrous being dangerous and not suitable for the everyday driver evo to use at the track. I brought fact and experience, you are perpetuating hearsay and internet myth.
If anyone has nitrous questions, feel free to PM me, I will help you if I can.
Last edited by DSMotorsport; Sep 29, 2005 at 09:00 PM.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I have no respect for someone who uses nitrous, nor do I pay any attention to anyone's accomplishments that were done due to nitrous.
Originally Posted by 91TSiGuy
That truely is quite a shame. You must look down on people who upgrade their front mounts and run cold air intakes as well too then-- since they are meant to cool the intake charge as well. 

Warrtalon seems to only be against nitrous because he himself will not use it.
I think everybody should be able to drop this argument and keep this thread (which has some useful info in it) going with positive information.
I think that nitrous is great on a turbo cars for many reasons.
-It cools down the charge air because of how freezing cold it is
-Gives you an instant surge of power that you cannot have with turbo alone (unless its pathetically undersized)
-Lets you achieve much more power over a stock turbo
-Only have to use it when you need it.
But there are also downfalls, like having the nitrous hooked up is illegal in every state I am aware of, possible inconsistencies, fear of damage>
But I think the biggie for most people is that as humans, our preconceived opinions (about nitrous this time) can dement our mental vision, and for many it is impossible to escape them.
I think everybody should be able to drop this argument and keep this thread (which has some useful info in it) going with positive information.
I think that nitrous is great on a turbo cars for many reasons.
-It cools down the charge air because of how freezing cold it is
-Gives you an instant surge of power that you cannot have with turbo alone (unless its pathetically undersized)
-Lets you achieve much more power over a stock turbo
-Only have to use it when you need it.
But there are also downfalls, like having the nitrous hooked up is illegal in every state I am aware of, possible inconsistencies, fear of damage>
But I think the biggie for most people is that as humans, our preconceived opinions (about nitrous this time) can dement our mental vision, and for many it is impossible to escape them.
Here are my plans for hitting 11's.....
ECU+
Wideband
Map sensor
Ecutout @ testpipe
Methanol/Water injection
Forge-BPV
-UNOS MBC
-W/G actuator with heavy spring
I believe once I give it a good tune with those mods I should see enough power to hit 11's........ Wheter my clutch agrees or not, only time will tell
ECU+
Wideband
Map sensor
Ecutout @ testpipe
Methanol/Water injection
Forge-BPV
-UNOS MBC
-W/G actuator with heavy spring
I believe once I give it a good tune with those mods I should see enough power to hit 11's........ Wheter my clutch agrees or not, only time will tell
Originally Posted by gsujeff55
na, i was thinking NO FILTER! 
and of course, GSC cams. thats why i put $500 and not $650, i assumed everyone knew HKS cams were a thing of the past!
btw, this LM-1 is kickass. do you know if i can run the 0-5v knock sensor and/or a map sensor to the RPM pickup?

and of course, GSC cams. thats why i put $500 and not $650, i assumed everyone knew HKS cams were a thing of the past!

btw, this LM-1 is kickass. do you know if i can run the 0-5v knock sensor and/or a map sensor to the RPM pickup?
Just talked to innovate you can use an external map sensor something like a 3bar GM Sensor would be perfect. If you PM me we can go over it a little more.
Last edited by GregGSC; Sep 30, 2005 at 01:14 PM.
Originally Posted by wingless
Cheapest? Under a 100$ easy ... With YOUR car of course.
1. Remove AC, interior, trunk
2. learn to drive w/o lifting or call a ringer like Curt Brown
3. VP import race gas
4. MBC... or for the cheapo record pull the vacum line of the WG actuator.
5. drop the exhaust after DP.
1. Remove AC, interior, trunk
2. learn to drive w/o lifting or call a ringer like Curt Brown
3. VP import race gas
4. MBC... or for the cheapo record pull the vacum line of the WG actuator.
5. drop the exhaust after DP.
Originally Posted by Boltz.
Here are my plans for hitting 11's.....
ECU+
Wideband
Map sensor
Ecutout @ testpipe
Methanol/Water injection
Forge-BPV
-UNOS MBC
-W/G actuator with heavy spring
I believe once I give it a good tune with those mods I should see enough power to hit 11's........ Wheter my clutch agrees or not, only time will tell
ECU+
Wideband
Map sensor
Ecutout @ testpipe
Methanol/Water injection
Forge-BPV
-UNOS MBC
-W/G actuator with heavy spring
I believe once I give it a good tune with those mods I should see enough power to hit 11's........ Wheter my clutch agrees or not, only time will tell
Originally Posted by GregGSC
I think you would need to use the Auxbox thingy for that. it will log all kind of ****. I will make a phone call to see if it is possible to maybe do a hack or something with the Rpm hookup.
Just talked to innovate you can use an external map sensor something like a 3bar GM Sensor would be perfect. If you PM me we can go over it a little more.
Just talked to innovate you can use an external map sensor something like a 3bar GM Sensor would be perfect. If you PM me we can go over it a little more.
you guys going to the import showdown at reynolds next weekend?
Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
yes, I can see this being enough power to go 113-114. That would be a high 11's with a very good driver. The clutch will be the big unknown, no way to know untill it starts slipping. I definatly see 11.9 possible with that combo.
Bov - $200
Turboback - $600+(depends on brand)
Full IC Pipes $400
Cams - $400
Alky Injection - $400
EBC - $250
Fuel Pump - $100
Injectors - $300
Custom Flash - $350
$3000
I think with decent driving skills, this should be reliable set up and the high 11s
Turboback - $600+(depends on brand)
Full IC Pipes $400
Cams - $400
Alky Injection - $400
EBC - $250
Fuel Pump - $100
Injectors - $300
Custom Flash - $350
$3000
I think with decent driving skills, this should be reliable set up and the high 11s
Last edited by J8dailo; Oct 19, 2005 at 06:55 PM.
Heres how I got to 11.8@116.65
3in tbe $300
Hks drop in $30
Safc $150
fuel pump $100
hks 264s $350
bc $50
Total $1000
I think I could have even gone faster but only got a few runs that night. Didnt race it again this season. Has been down ever since getting some work done.
3in tbe $300
Hks drop in $30
Safc $150
fuel pump $100
hks 264s $350
bc $50
Total $1000
I think I could have even gone faster but only got a few runs that night. Didnt race it again this season. Has been down ever since getting some work done.



