ive read some of it. Im at work right now, so ill read it all once i get home. I think i may contact Dirk about this. Thanks for the advice!

 

And then there are those that have the twin disc and it still won't shift too. What about those?

Thanks for making everyone think that we have legions of customers that are dissatisfied and nothing seems to work. So far on every customer that had this problem that has bothered to bring it to us (none) or RRE (two), adjustment did the trick. Yeah, you can change transmissions, clutches, lines, retrictors, fluid, or your underwear, and the problem will not go away, but a 5 minute adjustment will most likely fix it. Part of the problem is that the feel with the release point so high is awkward, but it seems to be the only way the EVO is comfortable shifting at high rpms with our clutch or the stock clutch.

I know in your case you are skeptical about it. Personally I am doubtful that you had the clutch adjusted correctly in the first place. It just didn't start acting up until you really started pushing it and the syncros said "I don't think so" until you adjusted it for proper release.

Has everyone read the page I made (actually 21 pages) regarding EVO clutches and shifting? If not, find the link, read it, and you tell me what we are missing. Please share your ideas with me. But don't just go blabbing your speculations on the forum. Email me personally at dstarksen@advancedclutch.com or call at 661-940-7555, ext 111 and lets have a healthy discussion. I have been working with clutches for 26 years, and they aren't that complicated.

 

Who give a sh.t what you think?!?! These are public forums last i checked.

 

It seems like some people are locking out and some are having great time with there act. I dont know if i shoudl buy it or not this is a really hard choice for me to make becuase i need one asap

 

And from the "plenty" we have yet to hear from one. Actually there was one where he thought he adjusted it... Mike at RRE said that there was a lot more adjustment left. I wasn't there, but apparently the customer left happy. Still waiting to see the "plenty" you are talking about. I guess Southern California doesn't have too many tricked out EVO's or something.

You say that I didn't have an explanation? I gave a 21 page explanation with photos. We have seen a few various issues with the EVO, but it is not just one problem. These are not dreamed up "it could happen" excuses. I have seen a broken diaphragm, improper release bearing install, and one with loose clutch bolts. I am sure by now there were more, but that is the three I remember. On other applications I have had problems with inserts on aluminum flywheels, and other issues mentioned in the 21 pages. All of which can cause shifting problems. Do I know what the problem is on the "plenty" you are talking about? How can I without seeing the car or testing the parts? You make it sound like it is some mystery or something that can't be explained. Man, it is not that complicated.

Honestly though we don't get too many EVO clutches back to look at. We sell a ton of them and get very few questions or concerns. We aren't getting many complaints, much less parts back for testing or warranty issues, but recently we started getting "plenty" of calls from people who are concerned about "all those complaints" we are supposedly getting with our EVO clutches.

 

Same here no problems at all, I shift at 7500 a lot. That sucks to hear all these problems.

 

Can you show me a link about the twin disk having problems? I personally havent seen any thread regarding this. Not saying I dont believe you just want to read up on it so if you have a link it would be help.

thanks

 

First of all guys, what's you position when racing. I hope you guys are not far away from the pedals. I used to race the way I drive normal... leaning back. Now I put the seat all the way up and same for the seatback. I never have problems with lock out. I have nothing but good things with my ACT. Also my rev limiter is set at 8200. I usually shift at 8000rpm. I just got my tranny rebuilt and I put a new disk and got the flywheel resurfaced. NO PROBLEMS. I LOVE MY ACT.

 

Ok, Dirk. Your clutch is great. If RRE doesn't encounter the problem; it doesn't happen. Adjust the pedal fixes everything, yadda yadda. We'll just keep being unhappy customers with unnaturally high pedal engagements while continuing to let everyone else know that there's a great chance it will happen to them, too.

 

I'll find my pictures I have of smoked exedy twin's. Not the clutches fault usually the installer or the driver. Any clutch if you beat it will break, Either it will or your driveline will.

Chris

 

I really dont understand. I love My ACT. I had one in my galant Vr4, no problem. For the price you cant beat it, I cant afford a $1700.00 clutch.

 

Dude a few posts up you just said how you got your clutch adjusted banged through the gears 3-6 all day long and it felt great. However, prior to that it seems like every guy that miss shifts now says that act is crap, after reading your thread. I just think care needs to be taken when you attack a company and create a bigger problem for them (act) than you ever really appear to have had with your clutch. Although it could always happen in the future right . You may have a following but they have a company with over ten years of history and much support for the import community. This should at least be considered in the context of your discussion that seems to have taken a life of its own. I know this isn't journalism but damn.

 

i have the act in my car and it works awsome, no complants here

 

I did a quick search. There are a lot of threads about noise, chatter, etc, but here are some threads that specifically mention shifting problems from the authors:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=156560
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=121609
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=116582
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=107263
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=107263
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=98843

I didn't bother to read through them, just the first posts or two. There are "plenty" (LOL) others threads with posts about it as well. I am not trying to dog on Exedy at all so please don't take it that way. They make a great product and I have no doubt that most (or all) of the shiftng problems aren't their fault at all. I almost didn't answer your request but then I didn't want you to think that I was just burning tires. As I mentioned before, there are a lot of other things that can go wrong.

 

Now you're taking everything way out of context. First of all, my other thread was in NO WAY an attack on ACT. I just shared my experience. I went from running 12.1s almost effortlessly to not being able to shift whatsoever at 7k rpm within a week's time and with no change in conditions. The fact that it went for 25 pages or whatever was not because I was attacking anyone or anything, but rather because this IS an epidemic.

I said that my clutch worked LAST weekend while road racing, which was the first attempt at doing anything since the "adjustment." Well, it felt just the same way back when I first had it installed (for the first 2 months), and it had been adjusted after installation. I was singing its praises just like a few people here and there, but then 2 months later, I basically had a useless Evo, since I couldn't shift at high rpm. I'm HOPING that the clutch will last a while in its current shape, but I'm by no means optimistic, since others have already done the adjustment and still ended up with the lockout problem. Only time will tell, but absolutely nothing changes the fact that most of us are encountering this problem unless the clutch rod is adjusted WAY OUT TO THE END as soon as it is installed, which should never be the requirement on a new clutch.

I don't have a following, because I am not leading anything. I simply gave my experience, and lo' and behold, many, many, MANY people have had the same experience. I am not satisfied with a simple "adjust your clutch to the end of the rod" solution, nor should anyone else be. I have lauded ACT for 8 years, as I've ONLY used ACT in my 3 previous DSMs and now my Evo, but this is the first time any such thing has happened, and it is not acceptable. It doesn't mean ACT is a bad company, but something is wrong, and nothing is going to change. Buy the ACT, get locked out, adjust the pedal all the way up, rinse, repeat...or get a twin disk to avoid that problem while spending 3x as much and dealing with constant chatter.