Ted-- Are you switching over to the 5 blade?

 

ok So what is the huge Diff between all these different 20gs ? Someone care to explain so i dont buy the wrong one.....

AND NOT VENDORS please. unless your honest :-)

 

Somebody ought to come out with a 7 blade comp wheel just to make it even more cornfusing

 

Spooldyou,
I am working on that matter right now. I could give you some answers about the 20G turbos but in reality I probably wouldn't be able to give any specific answers.

I have been trying to call Forced Performance myself but their phone is busy, I am a known customer of them and I don't think they would risk telling me any BS over this turbo so I am going to find out myself because I am among other things a customer interested on that turbo as well.

I am also calling Turbochargers.com and other past vendors like Slowboy Racing which I purchased turbos from. To me it is the matter of work ethics, if you want to hide some facts as vendors it is the matter of time before people find out.

So far Buschur has being honest in my opinion, he launched the 21G and quickly removed it from the market for not being the "ideal" turbo, then he tested the Evo 8 20G and he gave us hand up with the surging problem so I don't think Mr Busschur would like to screw us over. He has a great reserach and development program to help the customer.
my .2c

Carlos

 

Obviously, I cannot answer to the how's and why's of that. What I can say though is if you're considering a new 20G-9, you definitely want the 5-blade compressor job that Buschur sells presently. As for the 6-bladed unit that is still being sold elsewhere, avoid it like the plague. I chimed into this discussion because I quickly noticed from the photo that Riving VIII is about to install one of the 6-bladed turkeys.


It doesn't make financial sense for me to do so, given what I've already invested in installation and dyno time at this point. I'm going to go out on a limb and shoot a little higher . . .

 

why?

do you have a link to the thread that you put up dyno sheets and stuff in?

see this is what i don't understand... why doesn't someone just get a tme9 and find out if it obliterates these other moneymaking turbos? i think the evo9 trubo holds more boost than the evo 8s turbos... that's what everyone is looking for. i KNOW it won't surge with titanium internals as the overseas turbos use magnesium with no ill effects on surging.

 

Why? Because I speak from first-hand experience. I went from a TME to a 20G-9-6. My dyno sheets are in a thread somewhere in the Vishnu section. Additionally, D. Buschur just posted something that completelt agrees with my findings here:
http://buschurforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15546

Again, I strongly advise to stick with the BR/FP 5-blade unit, and avoid the 6-blade entirely.

 

nice was not aware of your thread, i'll go look for it.

 

Ok Now Im Confiused

 

I will clear the confusion.

I have the same turbo that is in your photo. This turbo is not the 'good' EVO-IX 20-G, and I am not happy with it. It does not make good power and is not worth the time and money to install in the car. The factory turbo is better.

Our 'bad' turbo has a compressor with 6 blades. The 'good' EVO-IX 20G has a compressor with 5 blades.

 

so , can I change the blades ?
Is truth that I whave to change the lower pipe to evo 9 lover pipe ?

 

The compressor can be changed, and I would not install the turbo unless you have it changed. Where did you buy the turbo?

You may have to change your lower IC pipe.

 

ok
I will tel you by PM

 

I'm taking your opinion in on how you feel about the 6 fin blade IX 20g. But I'll install the turbo for now, and see what my dyno numbers tell me.

 

Go ahead and install it. Note what happens to your power and torque below ~5000rpm. Also, watch what happens when you try to increase the boost to compensate. . . or should I say watch what doesn't happen. You won't make any more peak power than a 16G TME, but you will make considerably less power and torque below ~5000rpm.

Keep in mind that it isn't my 'opinion', but a fact that's been demonstrated on the dyno by more than me at this point (including Buschur's). I'm just telling you what is going to happen before you invest time and money in installation and tuning, only to find yourself disappointed when you end up at the same conclusion. Just keep in mind that once you run it, you may not be able to get a refund or exchange, depending upon where you purchased it.