In the old days, 60's, when I was a 'bench racer' and thought I knew more than I really did, It was way too embarassing to be face to face to a true racer/tuner and tell him that you knew more than him. First off, you probably would have been called out then and there to a race. But I've come to the conclusion that the internet has afforded these idiotic bench racers with a means to hide behind the keyboard and make flat statements to an experienced tuner/racer and get away with it, knowing that they can easily hide. I would love to see one of these 3076 lagmonsters come to OKC and I'll put the money on my Buschur prepped, Dynoflash tuned IX 20g-9LT. Now, I call you out. Bring it on. What a bunch of morons to make statements that have been proven wrong by someone who's spent more hours on the dyno, than most have sitting at their keyboards. AGAIN, my pocket book is waiting for your money. Same mods to same mods, 20G-LT to 3076.

 

It would have been inexcuseable to tell Don Garlits or Ronnie Sox or Grumpy Jenkins that you knew more than them. But you know what, that's what your doing when you question to knowledge and ethics of someone like David Buschur. How much time have you spent with him or his shop? My guess is never. I have and chose his route because I listen to experience. I'm a database administrator, own my own multi-million dollar company and could use any one I choose to build my car. There's a reason I use Buschur Racing and I hope that the bench racers of the world learn to argue valid points of topics and not just argue because of personality conflicts. I'll keep spending my money and time in Wakeman and hope to see the few benchers at the track.

 

some good numbers i think, cheap DIY kit with decent more. nice.

 

im just interested in 240's revhard mani project...he has chosen the 3076 and so be it...lets just see if it turns out good numbers!!!
--everyone here has done their own testing and all i have to say is so what continue what you were doing...and if you want brag about your latest project...then theres no harm in doing so...isn't that what everyones doing...so dont hate tuner/benchracers/etc whatever you want to call each other!!!

 

oh yeah...i will be using a 50 trim instead!!!

 

Why don't we go back to the 3076 and post up any boost/rpm graphs available. Then compare the whp at a given boost/rpm to other comparable turbos. I think the stats should tell the story. That way, the discussion at hand can be settled.

 

Since David Buschur brought up the GT3071 and 20g-9lt/Evo Green comparison, what's the difference in spool and power between these two turbos? It sounds like the Evo Green turbo spools sooner and produces almost the same power as the GT3071 turbo. I tried to search, but I could not find a clear answer.

To stay in topic will this Rev Hard exhaust manifold fit the Evo Green turbo?

 

Is the manifold twin scroll? Sorry, I've slept since the thread started. We added the 20G-LT to my son's car and can't tell any discernible difference in spool time between it and the stock IX turbo. Performance is killer. When it hits, it hits like gang busters.

 

The Evo Green will not fit the Rev Hard since it is flanged for T3 turbine housings.

 

It's not twin scroll, so spool up would be a llittle later than stock manifold on same turbo at same boost. This might affect street driving, but probably not drag use. Does same company make twin-scroll version?

 

Seems i've read that the twin-scroll helps small to medium turbos, but has little or no effect on larger turbos.

 

^ Ask people running the 42R.....

Oh and DB/50 Trimmers at large, I'll take somebody up on that race, I don't do the whole drag racing gig but I'll give it a go for us underdogs.

Scorke

 

I'm speaking in terms of at the track, not street driving. It stands to reason that lower rpm/boost would benefit from twin-scroll, regardless of turbo size. If I remember correctly, (can't remember where I read it), that high boost on large turbos had little gain, since the benefit of spool-up basically occurs only once during a drag race and the primary benefit is to direct air to the turbine wheel where it does the most good. After the turbo reaches max rpm, there is no longer a benefit. I stand to be corrected though.

 

im taking about a basic kit.... like every other company sells... they dont come with injectors & intercooler

so possibly a custom kit for under 2k?

doable?

 

I've got some dyno sheets for my car, but comparing sheets from different dynos during different times of the year is really kind of pointless. I have a "turd" turbo on my car and I really like it because it's not laggy and makes great power on just 93 octane alone. My car is full weight . Bumper beams spare tire all that crap and the "turd" turbo pushed all 3360lbs 122mph best trap speed and constant 120-121mph. Do the math on that. ET's aren't that great at 11.8, but I still have the stock clutch and 60' are 1.9's Car has never run on race gas or meth. Engine is bone stock other than cams w/ stock cam gears and runs stock ECU/MAF. I get 22lbs at 3.6-3.7k, instant boost when I shift, and lots of part throttle boost. I have driven Evos with 35R and larger turbos and they feel dead to me on the street because of the lag. In comparison my car feels very lively and responsive. This is a street car first and for me I made a great choice.