fpevo green dyno numbers
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Guys, I am in desperate need of some advice.
My car is a Evo 9 with the following.
HKS Silent Cat back, Metal Cat, HKS GT Pipe (Front+dump), Apexi AVCR, Apexi Pod, MR Bov, Motec M800 (Comp), JUN 2.2lt stroker Kit, Perrin fuel rail, 880cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, crower valve springs and titanium retainers, HKS 272 ex cam and Gear , Trust Spec R intercooler and piping and a FP Green Evo9 Turbo.
Car is only making 238kw atw at 20psi on 98 octane, which i think i equal to your 93 octane fuel.
What is the problem? Such a huge dissapointment for me! I was expecting close to 300kw atw.
My car is a Evo 9 with the following.
HKS Silent Cat back, Metal Cat, HKS GT Pipe (Front+dump), Apexi AVCR, Apexi Pod, MR Bov, Motec M800 (Comp), JUN 2.2lt stroker Kit, Perrin fuel rail, 880cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, crower valve springs and titanium retainers, HKS 272 ex cam and Gear , Trust Spec R intercooler and piping and a FP Green Evo9 Turbo.
Car is only making 238kw atw at 20psi on 98 octane, which i think i equal to your 93 octane fuel.
What is the problem? Such a huge dissapointment for me! I was expecting close to 300kw atw.
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you got pretty good parts to make good power. was the car mapped correctly? was the cam installed correctly?
From the top of my head, to make more power you should run more boost, put a airfilter and decat before upgrading the stock turbo and get the car mapped by a reputable tuner. I read on northcal evo forum that someone was getting the stock turbo power on the green with the stock filter. they gained 25whp from changing it.
From the top of my head, to make more power you should run more boost, put a airfilter and decat before upgrading the stock turbo and get the car mapped by a reputable tuner. I read on northcal evo forum that someone was getting the stock turbo power on the green with the stock filter. they gained 25whp from changing it.
Guys, I am in desperate need of some advice.
My car is a Evo 9 with the following.
HKS Silent Cat back, Metal Cat, HKS GT Pipe (Front+dump), Apexi AVCR, Apexi Pod, MR Bov, Motec M800 (Comp), JUN 2.2lt stroker Kit, Perrin fuel rail, 880cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, crower valve springs and titanium retainers, HKS 272 ex cam and Gear , Trust Spec R intercooler and piping and a FP Green Evo9 Turbo.
Car is only making 238kw atw at 20psi on 98 octane, which i think i equal to your 93 octane fuel.
What is the problem? Such a huge dissapointment for me! I was expecting close to 300kw atw.
My car is a Evo 9 with the following.
HKS Silent Cat back, Metal Cat, HKS GT Pipe (Front+dump), Apexi AVCR, Apexi Pod, MR Bov, Motec M800 (Comp), JUN 2.2lt stroker Kit, Perrin fuel rail, 880cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, crower valve springs and titanium retainers, HKS 272 ex cam and Gear , Trust Spec R intercooler and piping and a FP Green Evo9 Turbo.
Car is only making 238kw atw at 20psi on 98 octane, which i think i equal to your 93 octane fuel.
What is the problem? Such a huge dissapointment for me! I was expecting close to 300kw atw.
Last edited by Bosshog; Jun 14, 2007 at 02:29 PM.
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I have an apexi pod filter.
Car was previously dynod on same dyno at 221kw.
The was prior to having the 2.2lt kit, fuel mods, turbo and intercooler.
Car is spooling up earlier than before with stock turbo and is making more power midrange. But is only peaking at 18kw more???
How much boost is safe for me to run everyday?
Maybe this turbo is not suited to 98octane fuel as it requires so much boost?
Am i better off with a turbo that flows more at a lower boost?
Car was previously dynod on same dyno at 221kw.
The was prior to having the 2.2lt kit, fuel mods, turbo and intercooler.
Car is spooling up earlier than before with stock turbo and is making more power midrange. But is only peaking at 18kw more???
How much boost is safe for me to run everyday?
Maybe this turbo is not suited to 98octane fuel as it requires so much boost?
Am i better off with a turbo that flows more at a lower boost?
Last edited by Ami; Jun 14, 2007 at 03:52 PM.
There are some better cam options for the IX/Green than just running the HKS exhaust cam. If your tuner isn´t really a wonderlad with the standalone then you might be better off refitting to the stock ECU and EcuFlash/Tactrix cable and an tune from a U.S. tuner like Jestr.
20 PSI boost on 98 RON seems a wee bit conservative. Have you logged knock? I´d think that you´d be able to safely up boost to 23 PSI.
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The exhaust is 3inch all the way.
I thought 20psi was also a bit conservative too. The o2 housing hasnt been removed. They think now that the HKS 272 ex cam might be causing it to loose some power.
But even then I question it as if it was changed that would give me maybe 10kw more? Im missing about 50kw though from my expected results.
The tuner is also telling me that the 2.2lt doesnt give any additional power over the stock 2.0lt just torque and that is normal? im questioning if the engine was put together properly.
Otherwise im thinking of just changing to a bigger turbo as its pratcially the same as stock turbo, something like a GT35R or Trust kit.
THe tuner is saying extractors. The stock extractors have been ported but all those things like cam and extractors are 10 or 5kw each. so that doesnt explain 238kw from 280+ kw expected.
I though the fp green flowed allot more air than this.
I thought 20psi was also a bit conservative too. The o2 housing hasnt been removed. They think now that the HKS 272 ex cam might be causing it to loose some power.
But even then I question it as if it was changed that would give me maybe 10kw more? Im missing about 50kw though from my expected results.
The tuner is also telling me that the 2.2lt doesnt give any additional power over the stock 2.0lt just torque and that is normal? im questioning if the engine was put together properly.
Otherwise im thinking of just changing to a bigger turbo as its pratcially the same as stock turbo, something like a GT35R or Trust kit.
THe tuner is saying extractors. The stock extractors have been ported but all those things like cam and extractors are 10 or 5kw each. so that doesnt explain 238kw from 280+ kw expected.
I though the fp green flowed allot more air than this.
The exhaust is 3inch all the way.
I thought 20psi was also a bit conservative too. The o2 housing hasnt been removed. They think now that the HKS 272 ex cam might be causing it to loose some power.
But even then I question it as if it was changed that would give me maybe 10kw more? Im missing about 50kw though from my expected results.
The tuner is also telling me that the 2.2lt doesnt give any additional power over the stock 2.0lt just torque and that is normal? im questioning if the engine was put together properly.
Otherwise im thinking of just changing to a bigger turbo as its pratcially the same as stock turbo, something like a GT35R or Trust kit.
THe tuner is saying extractors. The stock extractors have been ported but all those things like cam and extractors are 10 or 5kw each. so that doesnt explain 238kw from 280+ kw expected.
I though the fp green flowed allot more air than this.
I thought 20psi was also a bit conservative too. The o2 housing hasnt been removed. They think now that the HKS 272 ex cam might be causing it to loose some power.
But even then I question it as if it was changed that would give me maybe 10kw more? Im missing about 50kw though from my expected results.
The tuner is also telling me that the 2.2lt doesnt give any additional power over the stock 2.0lt just torque and that is normal? im questioning if the engine was put together properly.
Otherwise im thinking of just changing to a bigger turbo as its pratcially the same as stock turbo, something like a GT35R or Trust kit.
THe tuner is saying extractors. The stock extractors have been ported but all those things like cam and extractors are 10 or 5kw each. so that doesnt explain 238kw from 280+ kw expected.
I though the fp green flowed allot more air than this.
I still think that you should get rid of the catalytic convertor and go to a SSAC O2 housing. Those 2 changes should net you 20-25 WHP(see current thread by Dynoflash in this forum). What does your timing table look like? Finally, turn up the boost to 24 PSI.
Last edited by sparky; Jun 15, 2007 at 05:31 AM.
yes get rid of your cat, even a HIGH FLOW cat robs 15WHP+ as stated by Buschur and shown on the dyno countless times. If you have a STOCK turbo and a 2.2, you willmake more torque then WHP. Look into a Turbo kit, atleast a GT35R witha built motor like that, if not atleast get a larger 02 housing, up the boost to like 23-24PSI, you should gain 40WHP with it tuned on the OEM turbo.
