I think I said this about 1,000 times in my previous tests - however to reiterate

I do not do this like a labratory test

What happens is when a customer comes into our dyno who is making weak power AND we have a lift free - we have offered them to do a free no obligation test of the Buschur Exhuast

I have been limited to the following testing conditions

1 - Available lift

2 - Customer with weak power

3 - Customer willing to wait around for a while while we navigate the car on and off the dyno and the lift to R & R the exhuasts and test - believe it or not many customers are not interested in doing the free test - many are busy or just are happy with the car the way it is. Others are curious and those are the ones we have tested.

When the above conditions have been met I have done a test - 4 so far

I do not dictate which kinds of junk exhausts the customers roll in with


My sole goal is to help assist my customers to make good power production as they do seem very disappointed when and if their cars do poorly on the dyno

IF I can show a customer with a necked down - resonated exhuast system how to pick up an additional 29 whp or so - I am a happy man - saving his car 20 lbs less weight and having a made in USA product is all a welcome side beneift to the increased power levels

Those who complain about my tests are free as I have said a dozen times to make their own test anyway they want and test what ever they want

We have another non v band normal Buschur 3 " exhuast here which we will continue to test in the future as the above conditions are met

 

Oh yeah, A AND B TEST this time!

 

Back in the dark ages, they used to burn books in massive bon fires

"Enough with your science and knowledge . . . "

"Books are the enemy"

"Censor free throught"

Its funny what some people think

 

bump

 

But the greddy ti does cost more than the complete Buschur full 3" system and it also does neck down at the cat

Some how I can not have a necked down exhuast on my car

BTW - please re-read my above post

I do my tests the way I see fit you can go ahead and book some dyno time and do some exhaust R & R and do your own testing which I will be happy to review

 

Slow Car - I did not forget you

To answer your question

I am here at The Shop now to take the picture of the down pipe and also print out your requested dyno sheet

In run # 9 the a/f sensor failed - we did a partial run on the original exhuast # 10 and and # 11 to try and test the sensor and while the exhuast was being R & R 'd we changed out the 02 sesnor for the post exhuast swap run # 12

I will post up the print out of these runs when I get home and can scan them in

Thanks for your concerns

AL

 

kartarailed, you are still doing it. Calling Al's testing anything but what it actually was and what was posted.

Al has clearly stated the car had a 3" downpipe, 3" cat and Greddy catback, that sir is a full 3" exhaust.

He then tested the same car with our full 3" turbo back which was CATLESS with no reducers, no resonators and now that he has shown a picture of the downpipe no severe bends in the downpipe.

What is so hard to believe about the gains going from a catted 3" turbo back with a quiet catback to our uncatted system with our bullet muffler? I will answer for you, THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL HARD TO BELIEVE.

Everyone, again, NEEDS TO LEARN TO READ the threads, watch the videos if provided and THEN comment.

This is rediculous calling Al anything. He stated what the test was.

 

dang so many haters lol. BR exhaust rules!

 

when i get back from iraq i'm bringing my car to you dave and i have an xspower TBE and i would be more than willing to do the switch and would definately buy your TBE if it makes more power because in the end thats what i'm trying to do is make more power from my evo.

along with the evogreen/20g-9lt i'm buying while i gone.

 

vigo,

If you will notice we were NOT invited to that test in Turbo magazine. Take good note of that while you are comparing.

We did an exhaust shootout in TPR magazine and went up against the Greddy Ti. In that test against our old system (note, less HP than our current muffler) the Greddy Ti made .8 more hp than we did BUT we made 1.3 more Ft lbs of torque than they did. I'd call the power outcome of the test a draw. Our catback weighed in at about 5 pounds more than their, ours costs $450. Greddy does not make a downpipe/offroad pipe/cat. So if you are buying ANYONE else's downpipe/offroad pipe than ours to mate to that lighweight Greddy when you get it all put together the total weight of the system will weigh MORE than ours. In other words we have THE LIGHTEST TURBO BACK EXHAUST AVAILABLE FOR AN EVO. Until someone does a complete turbo back Ti exhaust we will continue to have the lightest. When that happens I will have to change my claim to "The lightest stainless steel turbo back available for an EVO."

Rock on Al.

 

Well ,at least you have to admit it ,it's not really fair comparison to Greddy Sp2 vs Bushur V. One made to be quiet another made to perform withouth compromise.
the fair test would be Greddy TI vs Buschur.
altough the Borla make a decent one too.It's American too.

 

Hold up for one second before you get ahead of yourself. You are arguing the same point I am. In his orignial repost, which could have been edited or not, and I dont intend on rereading it, it said that it was a three inch for three inch. Everyone and there mom knows that a 3 inch HFC is about as useless as a stock cat, and that a 3 inch testpipe is a part where actual power is made. In the original it said nothing about a High Flow Catalytic. I am saying the same damn thing as you, that an ultra restrictive catback system and a catalytic converter could easily make these results true. I then said that if it were a comparison that used both uncatted or catted exhausts, and an exhaust that wasnt designed to be quiet and not powerful, than you would see a difference of about 10 hp. Please stop putting words in my mouth, the only thing I said about Al was his original posts always fail to specify HFC or TP, I didnt, and try not (but I have done it before) make any outlandish personal attacks on him, you, or anyone else on this forum.

edit* Now looking back at the OP, I see that the Cat was mentioned, but kind of in passing, but its there, so I will apologize for that. If I were to do an exhaust test on a peice together system however, im pretty sure I would just list the parts rather than mention them when the focus of the sentence is on another part entirely. But I digress, I missed it and apologize.
Cliffnotes. I agree with you.

 

hmm....never notice the "clamp marks" till you mentioned...i think those marks come from the fixturing during the welding process?

 

This looks like a stainless 3" downpipe with no flex section, what is that a helix or knockoff? Ok, so its a 3" pipe, now what is that rusty piece bolted to it? I can't see in the picture

 

I just watched that video...

One thing I noticed about the exhaust that was previously on the car. It necks down way more than I thought, which, if we are playing the 3 inch to 3 inch game, you cant put that exhaust in the running. It really looks like a peice of you know what to me. So, Im going to go back on everything previously said by myself in this thread, and state that, this exhaust test thread is entirely plausable. That that POS catback, a HFC, and unknown, but quite bendy, downpipe, could certainly be outpaced by the arrow straight 3 inch BR exhaust. Now I would really love a comparison to a REAL 3 inch exhaust. not that sad excuse for a catback exhaust. I really think that the ebay, the proper ebay, the one that people have and like, would be an extremly close comparison. HFC's need to stay out though.
-Rob

*edit - rusty peice looks like the end of a stock cat to me.