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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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thats a big turbo for a road race car!
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blackonblackevo
why a 44mm and not a 38mm
If you have a 38mm wastegate on a 35R and dont need to boost under 18 psi, your fine. The reason for a 44mm is to prevent boost creep, as a bigger wastegate allows you to run lower boost. boost creep is an interesting problem -- its good and bad, and usually happens at lower boost levels. Essentially it means that when your wastegate is completely open and bypassing as much exh gas from the turbo as possible, the engine is breathing so well that it still is spooling the turbo. The good news is that your engine is breathing REALLY well. the bad news is you need more flow to your wastegate.

aside from all that, the vband alone makes it worthwhile.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Thanks Geoff, I wanted to splurge and do a twin scroll one with you since talking last summer, i'll bring it by when it's done so you can tell me whats wrong with this setup haha. Now I see it's an option on the website, any one tried a 35 with the divided t3 manifold or have you found other option's than the hotsides ATP offers?

I really hate when people like say oh you need this size wastegate for this much power, its sad how mis informed people are at times....

As I said and you reiterated the Vband was what sold me.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
1000cc Precision Injectors and a Walboro, I'lll let u know how it goes steelcity, 35R should be a nice upgrade from the 3076, I am making the same move, wouldn't consider it without a stroker setup though.

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Well with the fuel components above, and assuming that you have all supporting mods for your new gt35r kit, it seems that you will be running around 20 psi with the right tuner, am I right?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
You are one intelligent "baller" too I might add
I read it on this forum. Thank you for your compliment. Would you like to see a pic of the evo next to the cayenne s ?

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Hehehe......

Who did you "hear" from that a 38mm gate was good "up till" 35psi?

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You too I read it on this forum.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Garrett core, 24x12x3.5, my own endtanks, wish me luck with that haha....


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Hey, good luck with the build.

The custom intercooler is the route I've decided to go with too, and as a matter of fact, I've chosen the same core. I was going to go with one of Garrett's tube and fin cores, but the odd sizes make the bar and plate a better option for me.

I'm going to be designing my own endtanks, and probly have ETS fab them up for me.

Do you have any pics or drawrings of the endtanks your using?

Or possibly have any good sites or info to help get the best flowing design?

Thanks
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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^ he heard from the turbo gods.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Hehe it's no coincidence that lots of fast cars use that core, and it will cool a lot of hot air too not just flow decently.


and yes, here is the God's website-
http://www.are.com.au/feat/techtalk/...rsMR.htm#Tanks

At least the endtank god, all I can/will say about my particular design is that it won't be super different than lots of other popular designs, it will not use severely angled inlets or outlets, and it will probably be offset on the outlet side only.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blackonblackevo
I read it on this forum. Thank you for your compliment. Would you like to see a pic of the evo next to the cayenne s ?
Congratulations on making another investment with huge depreciation.

The build looks good, I'm curious to hear more about these IC's.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
thats a big turbo for a road race car!
All the fast road race guys run 35R's, I'll be like them just not fast

Bah to really be happy I want a front LSD and then I would probably be satisfied, untill then....

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Congratulations on making another investment with huge depreciation.

The build looks good, I'm curious to hear more about these IC's.


Uhh I can get a optional t3 .78ar hotside, and buy a used dnp manifold and my kit will no longer be one of the slower spooling kits but probably be faster than a ams kit in a spool up comparison and that means a atp kit would be a great purchase if you know what you are doing, right ?

So I don't think it would depriciate so much then, because who would not be interested in a twin scroll gt35r kit that can be made for half the price of competitors who do not even offer a twinscroll gt35r kit, am I wrong ?

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by blackonblackevo
Uhh I can get a optional t3 .78ar hotside, and buy a used dnp manifold and my kit will no longer be one of the slower spooling kits but probably be faster than a ams kit in a spool up comparison and that means a atp kit would be a great purchase if you know what you are doing, right ?

So I don't think it would depriciate so much then, because who would not be interested in a twin scroll gt35r kit that can be made for half the price of competitors who do not even offer a twinscroll gt35r kit, am I wrong ?
Ughh.. How many times do I need to explain this to you?

Yes you could use the twin scroll T3 .78 a/r housing on a 35r, yes it would spool fast. BUT it would have MAJOR back pressure issues, and you would not make near the power the turbo is capable of.

So, quick spool and low power.. Congrats

You would also need to buy a new manifold, new downpipe, and various small parts. You would end up spending more money than you would have if you just bought a quality kit in the first place. Quit trying to polish a turd.

So, no you would not have a better kit at half the price.. Congrats

*edit*

Scorke, sorry I dont want to clutter up your thread, and I know arguing with this guy will do that, so I apologize in advance.

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Bah, it's ok he is just so stupid that when all of us try to reason with him he just argues, or never admits defeat and comes back into the thread and changes all of his posts to ....

Black on blackevo, if you are going to change the hotside and buy a new manifold, why didnt you just buy a different kit in the beginning?

Adding a DNP manifold and a hotside is throwing about 1k dollars on top of what you paid for your kit, and for less than the cost of htat and the base ATP kit you could of had 1, well made kit.

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
No, because IIRC the DNP manifold fits a T4 hotside, not a T3.

Also, you need to understand that unless a different hotside and manifold places the turbo in exactly the same place, your exhaust, IC pipes, intake, etc., will not bolt up. Also, there is the problem of WG placement, because your downpipe won't work. Be advised, you won't be able to convert an ATP kit into something else without a cutting torch and custom fabrication. I know, I was there. . .

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