F$@# high prices build your own Intercooler:)
When you dwarf our horsepower and accomplishments, let me know.
BMFD, it's a big core compared to our deluxe. Your point is what? The post says F*** high prices.
You didn't do anything but show pics of a core and some end tanks that don't appear as though they will line up very good.
Cost to produce end tanks and have them welded, cost of tubing, bracket, HD couplings and core, then we'll see how much was saved.
BMFD, it's a big core compared to our deluxe. Your point is what? The post says F*** high prices.
You didn't do anything but show pics of a core and some end tanks that don't appear as though they will line up very good.
Cost to produce end tanks and have them welded, cost of tubing, bracket, HD couplings and core, then we'll see how much was saved.
When you dwarf our horsepower and accomplishments, let me know.
BMFD, it's a big core compared to our deluxe. Your point is what? The post says F*** high prices.
You didn't do anything but show pics of a core and some end tanks that don't appear as though they will line up very good.
Cost to produce end tanks and have them welded, cost of tubing, bracket, HD couplings and core, then we'll see how much was saved.
BMFD, it's a big core compared to our deluxe. Your point is what? The post says F*** high prices.
You didn't do anything but show pics of a core and some end tanks that don't appear as though they will line up very good.
Cost to produce end tanks and have them welded, cost of tubing, bracket, HD couplings and core, then we'll see how much was saved.
Dave, there not even welded on yet....
Because you posted here I'll go on though....
First off, I love dave buschur, the deluxe IC I got it for a steal and have been very happy with how it is held up/performed over the years, just the guy who bought my turbo setup is purchasing it all together so I am selling it with the custom intecooler piping I had to get made for the deluxe to its unique design.
It says down with high prices because if you find a good fab place you can have one made for less than the price of a much smaller core. If I went with a similarly sized core the price would of been even less, nothing against Buschur as I have said time and again it just happens that I used to be running it, it never let me down and I don't have an issue with it, it's just being replaced.
Not an Anti buschur thread just an Anti vendor thread, that sounds wrong, but you know what i mean, a thread about doing things your own way
Scorke
Last edited by scorke; May 3, 2007 at 01:58 PM.
Dave that was put together for 200+ dollars less than the price of the Deluxe being that you mentioned it. Two couplers are what 15 bucks, the LICP will be less than 100 for fab and materials...
This thread is about doing things cheaper yourself...
Scorke
This thread is about doing things cheaper yourself...
Scorke
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Fair enough, seemed anit Buschur.
Also, PTE sells Garrett cores, as most people know. The core we use for our Deluxe and Standard FMIC's cost $386.99 each if you buy it from them.
The race FMIC core we use costs $499.99 each if you buty those from them direct.
We charge $659 for the standard FMIC, build the tanks, inlet/outlet, weld them on, build the brackets, weld them on and supply couplings for it. That's $272.01 more than the cores cost, doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.
The Race FMIC we sell for $759, same deal, build the tanks, inlet/outlet, weld them on, build the brackets, weld them on and supply couplings for it. That's $259.01 more than the core costs, seems like an even better deal. I don't see how someone is going to justify obtaining the parts, cutting them, welding them etc. for a savings of about $260......
I'll stay out of the thread now.
Have a nice day.
Also, PTE sells Garrett cores, as most people know. The core we use for our Deluxe and Standard FMIC's cost $386.99 each if you buy it from them.
The race FMIC core we use costs $499.99 each if you buty those from them direct.
We charge $659 for the standard FMIC, build the tanks, inlet/outlet, weld them on, build the brackets, weld them on and supply couplings for it. That's $272.01 more than the cores cost, doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.
The Race FMIC we sell for $759, same deal, build the tanks, inlet/outlet, weld them on, build the brackets, weld them on and supply couplings for it. That's $259.01 more than the core costs, seems like an even better deal. I don't see how someone is going to justify obtaining the parts, cutting them, welding them etc. for a savings of about $260......
I'll stay out of the thread now.
Have a nice day.
How does it screw you at all? Dave I have no problem with you in this thread as you always offer your .02c and most of the time it contributes, feel free to continue posting.
But come on, how does this in anyway negatively effect you or any other vendor? There are still going to be countless guys buying them from you because others don't want the hassle/custom spec'd parts..
What about this intercooler did I steal from who? It's a garrett core, I'm sure some of the vendors use them but not many because they are pricy, the endtanks are quite different than yours, the outlets are angled back but not down like the AMS endtanks which are angled top and bottom of the plane where the inlet/outlet are but no where near AMS's and not near flat like yours.
This design of endtank although close to a few is not copying any I have seen on Evo applications thus far. It's far from perfect....
Scorke
But come on, how does this in anyway negatively effect you or any other vendor? There are still going to be countless guys buying them from you because others don't want the hassle/custom spec'd parts..
What about this intercooler did I steal from who? It's a garrett core, I'm sure some of the vendors use them but not many because they are pricy, the endtanks are quite different than yours, the outlets are angled back but not down like the AMS endtanks which are angled top and bottom of the plane where the inlet/outlet are but no where near AMS's and not near flat like yours.
This design of endtank although close to a few is not copying any I have seen on Evo applications thus far. It's far from perfect....
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Of course you can build these parts cheaper then vendors can sell them, you have no overhead or operating costs besides the pieces or parts you buy.
Now if you can make them perform as well as some of the vendor parts, that would be impressive!
For me, I don't mind paying good money for proven quality parts.
Just my 2cts!
Now if you can make them perform as well as some of the vendor parts, that would be impressive!
For me, I don't mind paying good money for proven quality parts.
Just my 2cts!
Lets see how much mine cost vs BR and AMS
i have a 4.5in core good for 1300-1500 whp per PTE
core $4** with some change endcaps to have made $70 takes about 40mins to make endcaps.
So im under $500
now pipeing for upper and lower ic $1** with some change that is SS also not that other and lighter pipeing. I might even to vband clams to mount on ic and tb to insure it wont pop off. This takes a lil over a hour to get everything to fit right. And labor is almost nothing.
So im sitting at almost $700 almost.
i have a 4.5in core good for 1300-1500 whp per PTE
core $4** with some change endcaps to have made $70 takes about 40mins to make endcaps.
So im under $500
now pipeing for upper and lower ic $1** with some change that is SS also not that other and lighter pipeing. I might even to vband clams to mount on ic and tb to insure it wont pop off. This takes a lil over a hour to get everything to fit right. And labor is almost nothing.
So im sitting at almost $700 almost.