You are aware that Buschur uses Garrett cores right?

Nothing against Buschur, or AMS for that matter, but by the looks of the endtanks, neither one of them took much time designing them.

Not sure how your comparing the R&D that went in to the Evo, and the R&D that went into Buschur's endtanks.. Endtanks are a little bit simpler than the Evo..

If your willing to sacrifice a little time and effort, you can save some money by doing it this way. I think that is the point of the thread.

If your time is worth the added expense, then by all means spend the money on a complete intercooler.

Nice job Scorke!

Looking good.

 

Everybody who has been supportive again I appreciate it, it's easy to go to a vendor or supplier and buy pre made stuff but as some on this thread have mentioned there is something to be said for doing things your own way. My turbokit is a complete mashups of many vendor's components, and I wouldn't have it any other way, because I like and know what each component is what it costs and what it provides.

For those talking about penny pinching, this intercooler will be far cheaper than a similarly sized one from any vendor. As I said this is merely a perc, the added performance over the smaller (in terms of width, thickness, and end tank and intercooler pipe design) is why it was really done.

Liqquid, Time has to equal Fun for me in terms of time spent on the car, otherwise I wouldn't enjoy it, but every second i spend getting dirty and busting knuckles is a second i learn or notice something about how well or how ****ty it's been put together.

Frenchy, I'm glad you see what I am talking about with endtank design. You can also see that just about any "race" version of any IC has outlets inline with the flow through the core, the trap door is comprimised and where I think this IC will excel in particular compared to the old one.

This core costs a lottt from vendors, however I wholesale parts and get decent deals(no I cannot get you parts - gotta keep the mod's happy)

Scorke

 

good luck man

 

The dimensions of this core are -24x12x3.5 for those wondering. In terms of what you have to do with make it fit is mild trimming on the front of the bumper around the mesh, nothing otherwise with this specific endtank design/LICP layout.

Thats 1 inch shorter and a half inch thinner than the race core.( buschur) It is 2 inches wider and half an inch thinner than the AMS race intercooler.

It is now on the car, IC pipes are being fabbed tonite, will post pics tomorrow, looks purtty.

Scorke

 

Scorke:

You might try welding in directional vanes in the endtanks to split the flow and direct it better to all areas of the core. just a tip from Corky Bell's book

And yes inline with the flow is better, the change of direction in airflow should not be more than 15 degrees out of the line of flow. That's why centering the inlet and outlet is optimal, however you still need directional vanes going from the inlet to equally split the flow.

Very interested in seeing pics when done

Milburn

 

Yeah the kid who did the fab work was suggesting the same thing, but in order to do it with any sort of certainty that it would be beneficial and or distribute the air better is very difficult without lots of time and equipment which as a 20 year old college student during finals, I don't have .

One thing to keep in mind is that the bottom of the core is going to be seeing more air than up top, being that the bumper covers a lot of the top of most inercoolers. The Angle of the outlet is much less than 15 degrees however it should help the air at least start in the right direction.

Piping on the inlet was made to be as restriction free as possilbe a 6 inch radius 180 bend is used on the hotside.

Will post plenty of pics when finished.

Scorke

p.s.-Corky Bell is the shiznizz,best present I got for my 14th birthday was that book...

 

No, it started off saying exactly what I wanted to.

Then people like you came on here quesitoning and belittling everything I was doing, so I had to answer every aspect of this build.

This IC will perform better in all aspects compaired to my last one and will cost me less. No matter what IC i bought custom LICP was nec because I am running a manifold that requires a custom LICP unless you buy the complete turbokit yourself.

Maybe I should of titled it something else, but shoot i only have so many character spaces for the title....

Scorke

 

Your done here because you have no point to be here in the first place...

You dont agree with Scorke approach
You dont believe he can create himself a working performance product
ANd you dont have the stones to do it yourself

It's easy to stand back and say "IT wont work"
Someone told buschur that more than once....glad he didnt listen

thanks for playing

 

Glad you agree Russ. Hows the stealth evo running Shoot me an IM if your gunna b online for a while.

Scorke

 

If you can fab your own intercooler there is a few hundred dollars to be saved. For such a core there are few options for endtank design because of space limitations. That is why you see everyone's tank design to be very similar. Not suprising to see some of the whinny vendors crying about this post because DIY does not fit their business model. The reality is that DIY guys such as Skorke are few and far between so the vendors will still see business. BTW, that core looks familiar....good luck!

 

You may indeed. I will have no before/after tests nor do I have the equipment to do any real testing all I can/will report is the numbers the car puts out once together.

Thanks for the words James. I thought you might of seen this sucker before! Next year when I am 21 I will finally let you cash in on some drinks!

Scorke

 

If I could have a product thats not proven, but better, and cheaper would it still not be worth it?

To me a couple days or even weeks for something that will be an improvement every second you spend in our car is a small price to pay in the time=money category as the increased performance is very valuable if you weigh the time in the car with the better part

Scorke

 

I give an A for effort and congratulate on the DIY.

However, you will never truly know if it is indeed a better design than what is already offered on the market for $100 more. You just make reference to the Garrett core and how it is such a good core. As you probably already know, a ton of intercooling efficiency comes from the endtank design.

You stated that you will just have output numbers after the build. That is a shame and negates the whole undertaking.

To me, in a build situation $100 is a drop in the bucket and well worth the added security of a proven part when I'm bangin' through gears long after the build is over and my car is on the road / track.

Now, if you had a way to prove it is a better piece AND diy, then you have a winner! Until then, wasted time, effort, energy.

 

Not wasted, if it makes more power than it would with a "bought" intercooler. Yes I will never know, but I'm confident enough that I am ok with that.

A lot of efficiency comes from the endtank design and if you will compare mine to some of the other popular ones out there it is similar but not exactly the same.

Scorke

 

Good for you if you are OK with it.

One thing you know for sure....no one else will have one.

Good luck with it.