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View Poll Results: Overall, who do you think is the best at mail in/e-mail flashes?
Dynoflash
77
16.45%
Jestr
168
35.90%
TTP Engineering
160
34.19%
Vishnu
36
7.69%
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27
5.77%
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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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We need to get some cars from both side and go to the track then will see. As for my car I need someone to drive it for me
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by El.BlueEvo9
Well, my car is much stronger on the bottom and the top with the same mods by both and 45 more WHP. That's my experience period..........And I also know where my first and 2nd tune came from.
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Manie, I'm not even going to comment on this.
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Of course I did end up getting more things for my 2nd tune with Jhon which then resulted to a 45WHP increase on the dyno at CFT.
So, now that we have established that you compulsively lie and omit key information to try and prove a point, may the thread proceed, free from further BS from you?

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Old May 13, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EVIL MR
We need to get some cars from both side and go to the track then will see. As for my car I need someone to drive it for me
Unfortunately that is the case with the track, the faster cars get beat quite a bit due to driving. In my opinion, the best way to determine this is to get a car on the dyno. Since we are talking Eflashes, this will be very simple, as there is no competition for dyno numbers with countless pulls. Have the customer pay for the dyno time, TTP, Jestr, Dynoflash, Mellon, whoever can each contribute an eflash according to the mods as they normally would. Said tuners would be allowed 1 adjustment. Best average of 3 pulls wins.


Who's down? Dion (evotenguko) has a nonflashed 9 with basic mods. I think he would be a good guineau pig if we can set this up.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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wow it seems our local central florida evo owners love to argue about whp,12years experience and 11 years and who can make the best E T s doesnt seem to be an issue for them they go on and on about a car makin 45 wheel horsepower extra after adding racegas to any car it should run better and make more power. im not calling any one a bad guy but everytime something like this comes up there are two central florida evo owners that always seem to back each other up and be the ring leaders in these arguments. i was just wondering if this can be put to an end the topic is e flash which non of these two ever had from either of the tuners they both had custom tunes (hint custome tunes are not the topic) but yet they still want to bash a tunner in some way shap or form it makes me and others not even want to particapate in reading the forums because of these actions. dont expect a respone from me after this cause im not arguing im making a statment and i dont wanna read this forum any more because of two that want to justify a custom tune not an e flash.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec'd
I didn't see an option for Mellon tuning in the poll.


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I would have added him when I made the poll but I didn't know about him at the time. I heard he is a great tuner so he should be up there with the rest of them.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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O.K. Then
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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You know what Scott , I'm not here to bash on your company. I'm not going to anymore if I have. And if I have, sorry about that, but I'm sure you'll get over it. Let's go truth here shall we. O.K., In the beginning, I started with TTP. TTP made me realize that the car has so much potential, and they have helped me with a lot of issues that my car went through. TTP is very good at what they do, except that they can work on the customer relationship part of it a bit more. I decided to switch to Jestr to try him out. I liked what he has done with my car. That's it. Nothing else. Both Jestr and TTP are good at Road Tunes, and Mail in Tunes. If you have the time and money, then there is nothing wrong with switching tuners to be able to see how the other one does. My Flash in my own opinion of just how the car feels to me, is very good..........Period......And NO you don't have to reply.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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I like the new factual you! Congrats. Great post.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by El.BlueEvo9
You know what Scott , I'm not here to bash on your company. I'm not going to anymore if I have. And if I have, sorry about that, but I'm sure you'll get over it. Let's go truth here shall we. O.K., In the beginning, I started with TTP. TTP made me realize that the car has so much potential, and they have helped me with a lot of issues that my car went through. TTP is very good at what they do, except that they can work on the customer relationship part of it a bit more. I decided to switch to Jestr to try him out. I liked what he has done with my car. That's it. Nothing else. Both Jestr and TTP are good at Road Tunes, and Mail in Tunes. If you have the time and money, then there is nothing wrong with switching tuners to be able to see how the other one does. My Flash in my own opinion of just how the car feels to me, is very good..........Period......And NO you don't have to reply.
gay gay gay!
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Old May 13, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo8
wow it seems our local central florida evo owners love to argue about whp,12years experience and 11 years and who can make the best E T s doesnt seem to be an issue for them they go on and on about a car makin 45 wheel horsepower extra after adding racegas to any car it should run better and make more power. im not calling any one a bad guy but everytime something like this comes up there are two central florida evo owners that always seem to back each other up and be the ring leaders in these arguments. i was just wondering if this can be put to an end the topic is e flash which non of these two ever had from either of the tuners they both had custom tunes (hint custome tunes are not the topic) but yet they still want to bash a tunner in some way shap or form it makes me and others not even want to particapate in reading the forums because of these actions. dont expect a respone from me after this cause im not arguing im making a statment and i dont wanna read this forum any more because of two that want to justify a custom tune not an e flash.
Your name is Ryan, the tech from TTP. Using 2 screen names here on EvoM.
You allready voiced your opinion once under 1 screen name. \/ \/ \/

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TTP best tune my car ever had very consistant times no knock never had engine failure has always reviewed my logs and adjustment were almost never needed TTP (Scott) is the only one who will touch my car.
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One (1) person posting under different screen names and may be voting on the poll (unknown) is not good. Spcecially if there is a company relationship with TTP.

Ryan, if you are talking about Manny and me as the 2 Evo guys that allways back each other up about their tunes, as you put it, then say so.
It looks like by you posting over and over again, same thing with all the other TTP group, you are doing the same thing. And you don't have an E-Flash either. So if you don't think we should be involved, then why are you guys in it too? Non of you local TTP guys in this thread have an E-Flash, none.
Please think before you post. Like Scott sayed, there are intelligent members on this board.
I can shame some of you, but I will leave it at that. At least, my car runs good at the track, of the track and at the Dyno with the Jester tune. I will make sure it allways be that way.
Sorry about that.

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Old May 13, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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A personal and a professional screen name is permitted for those who work for Evom sponsor vendor. Much like ScrappyJack and Jack@Evostore that you know all too well in your local market.

It does seem that 04AWDturboevo is not an eflash customer of ANY vendor so one must ask what your intentions are here besides to stir the pot?
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Old May 13, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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No one can accuse me of being biased to TTP. Scott and I have argued back and forth over Innovate vs. ZT2 a lot But I have always considered TTP to be a good tuner. I have seen a flash from TTP and 3 from Jestr. From looking at the flash design, style and content, I can tell you that the TTP flash is better. Let me explain:

1. The high octane iginition map number 2 on the Evo 9 flash has better transition and no block tuning in the TTP flash than in the Jestr flash. Jestr runs more timing in the low end and the mid range, but TTP runs a bit more timing on the top end.

2. The Boost tables on the TTP flash are better than on the Jestr flash. Jestr maxes out the BDEL, the WGDC, and the Boost Limit tables. IMO, that is flat out wrong. TTP does not. TTP keeps the WGDC stock, tapers the BDEL, and lifts the boost limit but does NOT max it out. TTP does a safer and better job than Jestr on the boost tables.

3. When it comes to VVT maps, both of them use almost the same map. I am begining to think that most of the tuners throw the JDM Evo RS VVT map in the tune with some minor tweaking. The maps that are used are very similar to the JDM Evo 9 RS.

I have not used any of these maps since they are for 93 octane gas. I am just comparing content.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ASE_Tech@TTP
A personal and a professional screen name is permitted for those who work for Evom sponsor vendor. Much like ScrappyJack and Jack@Evostore that you know all too well in your local market.

It does seem that 04AWDturboevo is not an eflash customer of ANY vendor so one must ask what your intentions are here besides to stir the pot?
I am sory Bryan, you allready stir the pot before me. You don't have an E-Flash from any of the vendors either. Double standards?
Get off the Train Wagon, Sir.


The personal and professional names are permited, but not to argue with in the same thread with a poll. If you are a professional representing TTP, then please act like one.

You allready had posted a professional opinion. You should not be allowed to post a personal opinion in the same thread afterwards. I will take this with an Administrator if you don't back off. Don't get smart with me, I am well educated.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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as long as you have a logger like evoscan iam sure all this tuners can fix your tunes pretty good.
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