Evo IX with BPU Stage I on 93 - "real world" boost level

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May 29, 2007 | 05:11 PM

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Crazy knock settings are more likely to cause knock than 22 psi vs 24 psi...I would recommend that everyone LOG their cars and ensure they are running knock free

May 29, 2007 | 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DynoFlash

An educated consumer is my best customer

Not only do you get a graph of your data loged a/f and boost here

BUT - we will also show you the corection factor we use (1.10)

Also - we dont use a temp correction to inflate our numbers

i've heard, 1.10, 1.12 and 1.15, however you feel that day, and this is numerous people who dont know each other

May 29, 2007 | 10:25 PM

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i've heard, 1.10, 1.12 and 1.15, however you feel that day, and this is numerous people who dont know each other

I think its regretable that a so called "vendor" such as yourself would be posting such accusations against another vendor.

The fact is that we run the dyno at 1.10 as we feel this is the closest and most accurate to a so called dyno jet number

Back when I first started using this dyno in August The Shop (name of shop where dyno is) was using a higher correction factor. The dyno was brand new at that time and it took us a few weeks to figure out what the proper correction ratio was.

The main thrust of any dyno - is to use the same correction and settings at the start and end of a tuning or testing session to measure and quantify any gains or losses that may occur.

As I said previously, we have a huge 50" plasma TV which shows everything we are doing in plain view - including the correction factor applied which customers are free to observe and inspect at any time.

Al

May 29, 2007 | 10:49 PM

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Al it does not look like he is accusing you, he is just stating what he has heard from several different people.

May 30, 2007 | 09:59 AM

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Al it does not look like he is accusing you, he is just stating what he has heard from several different people.

To me it sounds like a bunch of gossip from high school girls

I could fill books about what gossip I hear about other vendors - that does not mean its my place as a vendor to publish those remarks on the forum

AL

May 30, 2007 | 10:06 AM

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I'll second that AL.....

May 31, 2007 | 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cij911

Crazy knock settings are more likely to cause knock than 22 psi vs 24 psi...I would recommend that everyone LOG their cars and ensure they are running knock free

+1. People should definitely log their car after installing a mail-in or email flash. Log it many times to make sure there is no knock.

21 psi hardly seems worth it. I think my stock Evo would to that in the winter time. :-) Seems to me that 23-24 psi at 3500 rpm is pretty reasonable on a IX. I think its more important to limit the boost at higher rpms (say 19-20 psi at 7000 rpm) where the turbo is going out of its efficiency range.

Jun 1, 2007 | 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DynoFlash

You sure do whine like a high school girl..........

Gossip or not people are allowed to talk or ask about rumors to maybe get a correct answer direct from the horses mouth to clarify what they heard......you seem to always get very defensive when someone calls you out, makes ya wonder? .....

I could also publish a book on all the flase information that is on this site.....but dont dare question it.

Sep 18, 2007 | 01:58 PM

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What kinda times would a care with that WHP run?

Sep 19, 2007 | 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DynoFlash

I see a trend with certain dyno tuners who are jacking up the boost for customers on the dyno to achive huge dyno numbers. I think what they must do is then turn down the boost when the car comes off the dyno as no one with a rational mind of going to run about with say 24 - 25 psi of boost on pump gas.

Here is an example of a dyno sheet and tune set up to run a genuine 21 psi peak boost that I recomend

The car had Stage I mods - intake - mbc and exhuast with pump and a reflash by myself

I would like to see the community a little more savy about inquiring what kind of boost is used to get "X" number on a dyno. Jacking up crazy boost and running it with knock counts to me is just a waste of time and not really relevant.

You can see the real world boost levels in the 2nd dyno sheet

For too many members the peak numbers are all they care about

For a savy tuner, the shape of the curve, area under the curve and smoothness are what really matters

AL

Al -- Folks can (and have consistently proven to) run 24 psi (peak) tapering to ~20 psi at redline and can and do produce wonderful power curves. Equally important are the timing and fuel maps, since all need to work together. If one runs 21 psi across the range and more timing in the 3500 - 4500 range, then it is possible to achieve similar results to 24 psi and less timing.