Boost controllers and a new one coming from BR
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How crazy is that logic?
I think that these two huge companies slugging it out on the internet is childish. Its stuff like this that made it an easy decision to close my own shop of 7 years. I will say however, its a shame you guys couldn't work together in the interests of the enthusiast and making money. It seems to me Perrin could have benefited from this potential union. Better communication, less ego, and a simple contract between these two companies and everyone would have walked away happy. But hindsight, as they say, is 20/20
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Ok, coolaide's down, now you put down the hash. Whole thing could have been worked out if Perrin would have had the foresite to see it would have been in there benefit to have a shop like Buschur reselling their products.
Thing is pretty much anything out there is in some way a copy of a design or product already out there. They just get copied, improved abit, and thats it. At least Dave was man enough to admit the truth.
Thing is pretty much anything out there is in some way a copy of a design or product already out there. They just get copied, improved abit, and thats it. At least Dave was man enough to admit the truth.
Dave: Hey Jim How are you today?
Jim: I'm fine Dave how r you?
Dave: Great I just got back from your house. I really like your new EVO 9. Runs sweet!
Jim: Thanks!
Dave: Yeah I am about have way to the shop with it now!
Jim: The shop?
Dave: Yeah, you wouldn't let me drive it or buy it. So I just took it. Just wanted to let you know! See you on the forums!
Jim: Thanks Dave for telling me. I won't call the cops or anything since you told me about it. I won't bother to call my insurance company either. It's fine! Thanks for the call!
Moral of the story: Honesty rules!
Jim: I'm fine Dave how r you?
Dave: Great I just got back from your house. I really like your new EVO 9. Runs sweet!
Jim: Thanks!
Dave: Yeah I am about have way to the shop with it now!
Jim: The shop?
Dave: Yeah, you wouldn't let me drive it or buy it. So I just took it. Just wanted to let you know! See you on the forums!
Jim: Thanks Dave for telling me. I won't call the cops or anything since you told me about it. I won't bother to call my insurance company either. It's fine! Thanks for the call!
Moral of the story: Honesty rules!
Problem is for your analogy to work you would have had to have your Evo for sale, but then tell Dave that even though he wanted to buy it you didnt want to sell it to him.
Iam not tring to start any more crap , but i have a question .
This "new" MBC looks alot like TXS "dual-stage" mbc but with less features .
From what been said so far is the "new" mbc can do WG pressure only on "low setting" or adjustabilty on the "high setting" . The TXS 2 stage MBC has adjustabilty on both high and low not just on high .
This "new" MBC looks alot like TXS "dual-stage" mbc but with less features .
From what been said so far is the "new" mbc can do WG pressure only on "low setting" or adjustabilty on the "high setting" . The TXS 2 stage MBC has adjustabilty on both high and low not just on high .
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For all you excusers out there. Here's a different scenario. Vendor calls FP to be a dealer and sell Greens, FP says no, we won't sell to you. Surely you don't actually believe this gives the Vendor a right to go copy the FP 20 Green.
Come on all you Buschur nutsackers and apologizers. The man admitted he copied the idea without permission. You can call it whatever you like and attempt to justify it with some faulty logic, but he stole the idea. I see no honesty or integrity in that at all.
Come on all you Buschur nutsackers and apologizers. The man admitted he copied the idea without permission. You can call it whatever you like and attempt to justify it with some faulty logic, but he stole the idea. I see no honesty or integrity in that at all.
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Some of you are missing the point. This isn't just a Patent non-patent issue. We don't claim to have a patent. Dave admits we had a superior product that he liked. His admission not mine.
The sales team here NEVER said we would invoke logo Copyright concerns if he sold the PERRIN product. Dave had the option to purchase the product from one of our W/D's. In fact one W/D in particular contacted Buschur directly. They gave them the proverbial finger (as shown by the blatant comments from Dave above.)
For someone as outspoken as Dave about Ebay etc. this screams hypocracy. Plus his ethics get seriously called into question. For Dave to openly admit he copied the part should be testament enough to where his actual values lie.
PERRIN will continue to support this community and enjoy working with you! Let us know how we can ever help further!
Adam T.
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PERRIN Performance
adam.taft@perrinperformance.com
The sales team here NEVER said we would invoke logo Copyright concerns if he sold the PERRIN product. Dave had the option to purchase the product from one of our W/D's. In fact one W/D in particular contacted Buschur directly. They gave them the proverbial finger (as shown by the blatant comments from Dave above.)
For someone as outspoken as Dave about Ebay etc. this screams hypocracy. Plus his ethics get seriously called into question. For Dave to openly admit he copied the part should be testament enough to where his actual values lie.
PERRIN will continue to support this community and enjoy working with you! Let us know how we can ever help further!
Adam T.
President and CEO
PERRIN Performance
adam.taft@perrinperformance.com
However, patent infringement or other IP issues is fertile ground. I don't know why more people in this industry don't do more legal groundwork, as triple damages and recovering legal expenses for victorious plantiffs can be quite, how shall we say, fun.
hon·es·ty /ˈɒnəsti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[on-uh-stee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the quality or fact of being honest; uprightness and fairness.
2. truthfulness, sincerity, or frankness.
in·teg·ri·ty /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-teg-ri-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
So let's see where DB violated these two principles. Well there was clearly no dishonesty, as he said and did exactly what he said he was going to do. Now the only grey area is in ethics which is clearly subjective. He copied another company's product. He attempted to improve on this product. Have you ever heard of building a better mouse trap?
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the quality or fact of being honest; uprightness and fairness.
2. truthfulness, sincerity, or frankness.
in·teg·ri·ty /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-teg-ri-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
So let's see where DB violated these two principles. Well there was clearly no dishonesty, as he said and did exactly what he said he was going to do. Now the only grey area is in ethics which is clearly subjective. He copied another company's product. He attempted to improve on this product. Have you ever heard of building a better mouse trap?
For all you excusers out there. Here's a different scenario. Vendor calls FP to be a dealer and sell Greens, FP says no, we won't sell to you. Surely you don't actually believe this gives the Vendor a right to go copy the FP 20 Green.
Come on all you Buschur nutsackers and apologizers. The man admitted he copied the idea without permission. You can call it whatever you like and attempt to justify it with some faulty logic, but he stole the idea. I see no honesty or integrity in that at all.
Come on all you Buschur nutsackers and apologizers. The man admitted he copied the idea without permission. You can call it whatever you like and attempt to justify it with some faulty logic, but he stole the idea. I see no honesty or integrity in that at all.
hon·es·ty /ˈɒnəsti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[on-uh-stee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the quality or fact of being honest; uprightness and fairness.
2. truthfulness, sincerity, or frankness.
in·teg·ri·ty /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-teg-ri-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
So let's see where DB violated these two principles. Well there was clearly no dishonesty, as he said and did exactly what he said he was going to do. Now the only grey area is in ethics which is clearly subjective. He copied another company's product. He attempted to improve on this product. Have you ever heard of building a better mouse trap?
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the quality or fact of being honest; uprightness and fairness.
2. truthfulness, sincerity, or frankness.
in·teg·ri·ty /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-teg-ri-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
So let's see where DB violated these two principles. Well there was clearly no dishonesty, as he said and did exactly what he said he was going to do. Now the only grey area is in ethics which is clearly subjective. He copied another company's product. He attempted to improve on this product. Have you ever heard of building a better mouse trap?
Just because many people do it (reverse engineer products) in business doesn't mean it's not stealing. Basically you're saying David is an honest thief. Great, bravo. All you're telling me from your comments is what you would do if in the same situation. It seems David has company.
This goes on a lot in this business. There are also a lot of thieves in this business. There are also a lot of lazy creators who should have taken the steps necessary to protect their intellectual property.