Touchee to that!

 

Yeah, and Daves dyno is basically the lowest reading MD in the EVO community.

If you look around, I believe BR has done extensive testing on manifold & O2 housings. again look around, you'll find it

Also, how fast as your S2k gone?? you said you ran it. I used to have a AP1 S2k and those cars are great. It takes a lot more skill to drive a stock S2k at the limit then a stock evo. I think both handle about the same stock and when super modified. The rear bias (oversteer) on the S2k is much more desirable.

before talkin about power and 1/4 mile times, everyone should know that you can make a bunch of power on any car, just a matter of money and work.

On the stock tip, we all know the evo wins. On the modified tip, evo has the ease of making power as it come factory FI. Doesn't mean a S2k (or even a civic) can't kill an evo, just means they spent a lot more money (mod wise..cuz we know you get your civic cheap and drop a motor, etc) and did more work (swaps, add FI to a non FI car, etc). Also just cuz Honda guy did all that doesn't guarantee he'll win either

Oh yeah, as for my S2k, it got stolen. fu<k thiefs

 

I am sorry that with your vast knowledge of the ATP turbo kits that you have probably had on your car that I even questioned you. But an AEM, exhaust manifold, intake manifold, and race gas and 75whp is not that hard to gain.

 

Ohhh sorry you said ATP "kit" which includes their crap manifold and such. I guess maybe with a different manifold, full bolt-ons, AEM EMS and C16 you could pull 470whp.. but, somehow, I still dont see it happening. The resutls Ive seen with those kits have not been too favorable in terms of dollars spent, spool and overall power.

 

I was running high 8s in the 1/8 mile when it was N/A, and that was on RT-615s which offered zero traction out of the hole. I haven't ran it since it has gone FI. It has been in the shop more than it has been out. Next March-April will be my first chance to take her to the track.

 

You don't have to run a 100 shot. The kits come with various jets that allow you to run anything from a 35-150. For a grand you get everything you need. This is getting off topic now. Sorry.

 

I know that you could run whatever shot you want, but you specifically stated a 100 shot, and I think that is too much for a stock Evo motor to handle on a regular basis.

Seeing as how I am the thread starter, I could care less if we stray off topic every once in a while, so long as the overall topic still pertains to mod'n the Evo.

 

I was under the impression that you already ran it. You should go run it soon. Your 10 sec S2K on paper may only be a 11 or 12 sec S2k on the real track.

 

In that case.....

A grand will get you a bottle heater, purge, gauges, and the kit itself. You'll also be smart to toss in an RPM window switch.

100 HP on the motor is 100 HP. Whether it be nitrous or boost it doesn't really matter. The cool thing about nitrous is you normally see better returns from the cooling aspect of it. Unlike high boost, nitrous is very cold. A 75 shot could very well provide 90whp.

Ask around... people have been running 100 shots on 4G63s for years.

 

My S2000 is currently down and out. It has no rear drivetrain and the turbo kit has been removed. The following upgrades are being performed while it is down:

1. I am upgrading the rear drivetrain to the inlinePRO R200 diff kit, which is capable of supporting 1000whp. I will be able to run some pretty fat slicks without any worry of breaking the rear end. The car will hook like a mother and the 60' will be pretty damn low.
2. I am sending the cylinder head to Laskey Racing for their Stage 3 head job.
3. I am installing a inlinePRO 3mm headgasket (drops the compression down to 9:1).
4. I am sending the TB to PortFlow for enlargement.
5. I am sending the intake manifold to a guy in the LA area to have him port it, remove unnessecary weight, and then polish it.
6. I am installing a Snow water-meth kit.

The car is currently making over 500rwhp on 91 octane, and will make over 650rwhp with the aforementioned mods and possibly MS109 race gas. I know that what really matters is going out to the track and proving the cars worth, but until I can do that I am simply using other S2000s as benchmarks. These S2000s are making slightly less horsepower than mine and also weigh a tad bit more.

 

I respectfully disagree with you on this one. You cannot compare 100 HP gain caused by nitrous to a 100 HP gain caused by boost. Nitrous is much harder on the engine then boost. Plain and simple.

 

This is a said a lot but I dont think there is any real proof. I would think people think its harder because of the initial torque spike and increase cylinder pressure but you get that from say a turbo as well. As long as the tune is good and the engine is not knocking, youre fine. Also, remember the nitrous isnt on all the time

 

I could be totally wrong here--I don't have any scientific data to back-up what I am saying. I am simply re-stating what a number of other performance enthusiasts have told me. Believe me--I would love for these people to be wrong and for you guys to be right!

 

Seriously if you are going to give info about a kit or anything for that matter please at least know your stuff. For starters the ATP kit does not come with "their crap manifold", it doesn't come with a manifold at all, it uses the stock one........you know the same stock manifold that bushur uses on his bolt-on GT30 kits (just not ported or coated). Also I believe if you asked a good tuner they would tell you that on race gas alone you would see at least 50+whp gains. But you are right full spool at around 4,300rpm, stock exhaust manifold, stock intake manifold, stock uicp, 21.5psi, 93octane, 401whp, reflashed on a conservative tune, and only $400 dollars more than a green "is a waste of money". I would like to see how many greens with my mods or lack of mods are seeing 400whp (once again not knocking the green, just saying the ATP kits for the money aren't junk). Unless you have personally dealt with or drove an ATP powered car you should not act like you know there kits!!! "The End"

 

I think that Soon2B was refering to ATP's crappy exhaust housing design. Greens are capable of equaling your numbers on 93 and besting them on 91, and spooling sooner to boot. According to my math, you still wasted $400.00.