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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I say go with a custom kit bushcer and all that is cool but sooner or later your going to mod the hell out of the car and outreach the limits of alot of the basic setups sold as kits.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
I dunno how you can over look 9sec9's new numbers on the green. All he had done is some head work and cams along with tuning of course. But everything else was stock. Ive always wanted a 35R but with those numbers he posted especially 500 ft/lbs of torque. His tune boost or torque dont spike so all i can say is it came on early.
Actually that is a built motor, a lot of headwork and VP Import fuel with meth. They were spiking the boost to 37 psi and letting it taper back to the mid twenties. And 30 degrees of timing up top.

Do not look at their results and think that you are going to achieve anything remotely close to those numbers without a lot of work.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
I dunno how you can over look 9sec9's new numbers on the green. All he had done is some head work and cams along with tuning of course. But everything else was stock.

Uh.... that is not correct.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Here it is from his post. The head work was done by Buschur. Stage 3 Stock valve size.
"I was a little surprised considering the levels of boost and the fact that I'm still using the STOCK actuator that cam with the 20G-LT. Not the HD, but the stock one. I'm also still using the stock plugs, stock MAF (no mods), stock exhaust manifold (ported), stock intake manifold (ported), stock tb (ported to 65mm) and stock OEM sparkplugs"
Now what is there that isnt stock ? They maybe ported but still stock. Like I said he is testing the JUN cams and a stage 3 head from buschur with stock size valves.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
Here it is from his post. The head work was done by Buschur. Stage 3 Stock valve size.
"I was a little surprised considering the levels of boost and the fact that I'm still using the STOCK actuator that cam with the 20G-LT. Not the HD, but the stock one. I'm also still using the stock plugs, stock MAF (no mods), stock exhaust manifold (ported), stock intake manifold (ported), stock tb (ported to 65mm) and stock OEM sparkplugs"
Now what is there that isnt stock ? They maybe ported but still stock. Like I said he is testing the JUN cams and a stage 3 head from buschur with stock size valves.
And the VP import, and the built BR 2.0L block, ported 65mm TB, ported manifold, head work, JUN hard to get cams, upgraded injectors, 02 housing, TBE, etc

Reality man. That is far from a stock car. Yes it's awesome he is running the stock ECU, etc etc. But to think that anyone can get those numbers by just buying a green is ignorance.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo8Emperor
Here it is from his post. The head work was done by Buschur. Stage 3 Stock valve size.
"I was a little surprised considering the levels of boost and the fact that I'm still using the STOCK actuator that cam with the 20G-LT. Not the HD, but the stock one. I'm also still using the stock plugs, stock MAF (no mods), stock exhaust manifold (ported), stock intake manifold (ported), stock tb (ported to 65mm) and stock OEM sparkplugs"
Now what is there that isnt stock ? They maybe ported but still stock. Like I said he is testing the JUN cams and a stage 3 head from buschur with stock size valves.
Read the entire thread, it is a stage 3 Buschur short block as well.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dancarroll0283
I say go with a custom kit bushcer and all that is cool but sooner or later your going to mod the hell out of the car and outreach the limits of alot of the basic setups sold as kits.
u mean Buschur?

and the 9sec9 is worked. honestly if we were to give my car with the ATP 3037s to Dave Buschur, im sure he would add some better go fast bits such as Jun 272 instead of my HKS, do a lot of porting, more tuning, more psi and race gas, im sure he would extract another 120whp from my car.

plain and simple, the fellas at Buschur know how to set up and tune a car to what it has.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
u mean Buschur?

and the 9sec9 is worked. honestly if we were to give my car with the ATP 3037s to Dave Buschur, im sure he would add some better go fast bits such as Jun 272 instead of my HKS, do a lot of porting, more tuning, more psi and race gas, im sure he would extract another 120whp from my car.

plain and simple, the fellas at Buschur know how to set up and tune a car to what it has.
When do you get full boost? Has to be around 4600rpms. And you make 430awhp. I get full boost at 3200 and make 370awhp on my stock turbo on pump. I am sure I make more torque then you also. Have you ever driven any other evo than just yours? I know you might enjoy the added power since you probably came from less than 300awhp. If you are gonna have the lag at least have the hp to make up for it. If I was getting a larger turbo I would be aiming for around 500awhp. The driveability is not worth anything less. A stock IX turbo is capable of 440awhp. It has been done and driven by me. If you are looking for high 300 or low 400awhp then get an fpgreen anything higher than get a better kit.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coolnick
Actually that is a built motor, a lot of headwork and VP Import fuel with meth. They were spiking the boost to 37 psi and letting it taper back to the mid twenties. And 30 degrees of timing up top.

Do not look at their results and think that you are going to achieve anything remotely close to those numbers without a lot of work.
First off we made 438awhp on a stock IX turbo with meth and drove it around for 7 months. No problems. 32lbs and stock headstuds Really hard to choose a new kit if the gains are going to be minimal and more lag. It is just so much fun as is.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Here comes the dyno to dyno racing...

sigh...
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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hey those numbers look good
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Here comes the dyno to dyno racing...

sigh...
No dyno to dyno racing because an atp kit has not set a good one. I have pretty much driven and installed every kit except full race. I have driven an IX MR around for months that had an atp35r with even AEM and it was beyond slow and laggy.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RevMoto
When do you get full boost? Has to be around 4600rpms. And you make 430awhp. I get full boost at 3200 and make 370awhp on my stock turbo on pump. I am sure I make more torque then you also. Have you ever driven any other evo than just yours? I know you might enjoy the added power since you probably came from less than 300awhp. If you are gonna have the lag at least have the hp to make up for it. If I was getting a larger turbo I would be aiming for around 500awhp. The driveability is not worth anything less. A stock IX turbo is capable of 440awhp. It has been done and driven by me. If you are looking for high 300 or low 400awhp then get an fpgreen anything higher than get a better kit.
i hit full boost (25psi) at 4500-4600. i make 472whp 426tq on ICS's dynojet. 93 octane and 100% meth.

seeing how i have had 3 turbos on my car already, driven with a few buddies who have evos, i think i can make the conclusion that mine was and is the fastest i have been in.

all this lag u speak of isnt as bad as u think. maybe this weekend i can get a video of the car at WOT in 3rd.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
i hit full boost (25psi) at 4500-4600. i make 472whp 426tq on ICS's dynojet. 93 octane and 100% meth.

seeing how i have had 3 turbos on my car already, driven with a few buddies who have evos, i think i can make the conclusion that mine was and is the fastest i have been in.

all this lag u speak of isnt as bad as u think. maybe this weekend i can get a video of the car at WOT in 3rd.
I think you should. I am really interested in watching it. Maybe even some outside shots too.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
i hit full boost (25psi) at 4500-4600. i make 472whp 426tq on ICS's dynojet. 93 octane and 100% meth.

seeing how i have had 3 turbos on my car already, driven with a few buddies who have evos, i think i can make the conclusion that mine was and is the fastest i have been in.

all this lag u speak of isnt as bad as u think. maybe this weekend i can get a video of the car at WOT in 3rd.
So you are making 50awhp more then a stock turbo car 1600rpms later. Not really worth the gain to me. I guess you get to say you have a larger turbo. Do you have a time slip to back these numbers up? Again if I was going to have a worthwhile turbo swap over an evogreen or stock IX turbo then I would like to break 500awhp. And yes it is very laggy to an impatient person.

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