Patience grasshopper...

 

We did three intake manifold tests yesterday, it was in the mid 30's. We did one today, it was 28 degrees I think. So no major change in air temps. Yesterday when I did the Magnus VS. stock I made sure the coolant temps and the air temps were stable and equal to get the test as close as possible to being fair.

After I test each of these other intakes I am waiting to talk to the suppliers to be sure they are content with my results, if they are I am then posting them. I am not trying to make any more enemies through this and it is tough. Obviously someone's intake is going to perform a little better than someone else's. That is a tough thing for a manufacturer who cares about their products to swallow.

So when I get the OK on this other intake that we already did then I will post the results.

Hopefully tomorrow.

BTW, the one I made will not work. That angle I put on the inlet interfers with the fuel rail.............damn it. It's on the car too, but the feed line wouldn't bolt up. I will work on it tomorrow.

 

:>)

 

jasil,

The consfusion lies in the fact that I did the tuning and baseline runs of the stock intake/stock throttle body on a day it was mid 50's. BUT I came back in and did a new baseline yesterday when it was mid 30's at best and then did the swaps after that.

 

What's the point of testing if you're not going to release the results and help the public? So I asume you already tested the VSR but are waiting to see if it's OK to post the results? That doesn't sound too good. I have a feeling your RS will keep the ported stock setup. Too bad you have to worry about politics so much. But I guess it's best not to make new enemies.

 

I think you just answered your own initial question. Sort of impatient, aren't we?

 

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Comparing these from a common sense point of view, I would think the old style is rather turbulant when compared to the newer design. When thinking about intake design, I would think an intake that acutally has more of a vortex design to the runner / plennum joint areas would be the least turbulant and possibly flow the best??

 

^^ interesting that the bell isn't flush at the bottom on this one...aren't they on the others or did I miss that detail.

 

no offense dave but they are what they are and if these "suppliers" did their homework they should have nothing to worry about. so i say post them up for us all to see and make our own decisions on what we want to purchase if anything at all.

 

Look, I have enough guys I don't get along with. I don't mind adding to that list though if I feel that's the best thing to do. Such as the testing I did on the first intake that started all this.

Also, to be really honest, this intake testing is for ME, not for everyone else. Yes, I am posting the results but at the end of the day I am doing this to make MY car faster. The results of my testing just have a "trickle down effect" as what I learn ends up going to our customers too and USUALLY the public in general.

I decided before I started this I'd give each manufacturer a call before I posted the results. I ended up with more intakes than I ever wanted to actually test. I don't see anything wrong with discussing my results with the company that made the part first. I am not here to ruin anyone's business. I am here to make more power and make my own car faster.

For a race application (drag or road racing) I have tested two intake manifolds that I feel would be a benefit to run already. I still have two more to test.

I think the small difference in performance between the two intakes I like so far could be attributed to a difference in weather conditions since they were tested a day apart.

I am sure the other results will get posted today.

 

dave is doing the right thing, anybody that thinks differently does not understand how certain business practices are conducted. He is being absolutely fair... thats how I see it anyway

 

Dave, I like the way you are approaching the remaining intakes. After the drama that started this whole deal I completely understand where your coming from and look forward to seeing you achieve your desired results of making your car faster.

Keep doing what your doing the way your doing it. This is tons of work for you and your shop and should be appreciated by all.

 

again, no disrespect but if this was for u and only u, then y make a thread about it if u had no intentions on posting the results?

u have many customers here that apreciate what u and the rest of the Buschur team does for the comunity, so keep it up, lets see those results ya big tease.

 

Well if someone is OUR customer then they have nothing to worry about because when this is over we will sell the part we think are the best. For those that aren't buying crap from us anyway I don't really care to be honest.

Think of this, this way. If I said I was going to test 50 different intake manifolds here at the shop and I never posted a single result. I just came on the forums after the testing was done and said, "Attention everyone, now that our dyno testing is conducted we will be selling the XXXX Intake manifold." Wouldn't that really be enough? IF you support us, IF you believe what I do, then that is for sure enough. IF you don't then no matter what I say will make someone use what I recommend. (Although this is debatable as there are quite a few guys who don't like me that sure did jump right on the Green and HTA35r turbos

I don't think that every single product really HAS to be discussed. In the end you will know what I like best, simply look under the hood of my personal car.

We aren't a shop that just sells everyone's parts so we can make sure we are making every single sale we can. I can name an entire list of vendors in this market (DSM's/EVO's) that offer every thing they can get their hands on. I call them "******". They don't care what works best, most of them don't even own an EVO or DSM. We aren't a shop that popped up, ripped people off and closed, many of those over the last 4 years here. We also aren't someone who turned their back on the community for 10 months and then just magically reappears when a new EVO comes to market. They are here to sell you what you ask for and make a living. I say to hell with that. I am an enthusiast. I do this because I love it. I personally own 3 EVO's. I don't care about selling something that doesn't work as well as something else. I think picking the right parts to run and offer is the key to staying at the top. I hate to keep bringing it up but obviously the combination that is on my RS works, 9.6 at 151 in a legit street EVO is moving. The car makes 684 whp and 620 ft lbs, that's enough torque to show it's responsive and fun as to drive, even with a larger turbo.

Anyway, I just got the fuel line to fit with the intake I built. I will have those dyno sheets up by the days end.

 

woot final some results. LOL