Intake manifold testing.
Well Tom that's a pretty strong statement and incorrect one. Have you looked at the two power curves by chance before stating you guarantee your powercurve better than ours? Your manifold doesn't cross over the stock one until about 6250 RPM, while ours is crossing over at 5750 rpm, 500 rpm sooner. So our power band is at least 500rpm longer. Just the facts. Coming on here and making a claim that yours is better than ours in every way and you guarantee it, when the test that Buschur posted doesn't support that, is pretty uncool. I'm not coming on here laying the smack down and stomping everyone else's product.
BTW your larger plenum design will hurt spool up and bottom end power but could potentially make a few more ponies up top. Oh and I like your CNC runner inlets, looks just like ours! Oh, I also have a design patent our manifold since the design was done over 3 years ago.
BTW your larger plenum design will hurt spool up and bottom end power but could potentially make a few more ponies up top. Oh and I like your CNC runner inlets, looks just like ours! Oh, I also have a design patent our manifold since the design was done over 3 years ago.
wshidnevo, no, I will not be putting anymore work into the stock intake with the larger plenum. Not worth the time when there are already two intakes that are proven to make power. It will go into the scrap heap of "tested and failed products". (Yes you douche bags on NABR you read right, it failed, it wasn't built to just win this test and sell parts, morons)
evovin, no I have not put a BBK TB on the stock intake. I think if you are going to stick with the stock intake that the best bet is to port the stock one and add the 65mm throttle body to it.
evovin, no I have not put a BBK TB on the stock intake. I think if you are going to stick with the stock intake that the best bet is to port the stock one and add the 65mm throttle body to it.
Martin,
Again I don’t like finger pointing and that’s what u did! My plenum is not larger than yours its a fact! I make my statements because I can back them up! Regarding your cnc patents please send them to me! As im an engineer im sure i can RE-engineer them
I said it before and ill say it again we can have the two manifolds re tested! AMS and DI! Its up to you!
I have nothing completely to loose do you?
I would like to apologies to everyone for these post!
Tom
Again I don’t like finger pointing and that’s what u did! My plenum is not larger than yours its a fact! I make my statements because I can back them up! Regarding your cnc patents please send them to me! As im an engineer im sure i can RE-engineer them

I said it before and ill say it again we can have the two manifolds re tested! AMS and DI! Its up to you!
I have nothing completely to loose do you?
I would like to apologies to everyone for these post!
Tom
Last edited by Driven Innovations; Feb 8, 2008 at 02:34 PM.
Nice work david
your homebrew suprised me.....
Whats next for the BR test group? large valve cyl head vs std valve cyl head???
I would donate some funds towards that
Thanks again
your homebrew suprised me.....
Whats next for the BR test group? large valve cyl head vs std valve cyl head???
I would donate some funds towards that
Thanks again
Martin,
Again I don’t like finger pointing and that’s what u did! My plenum is not larger than yours its a fact! I make my statements because I can back them up! Regarding your cnc patents please send them to me! As im an engineer im sure i can RE-engineer them
Im not getting into the details of daves tests as I completely respect him and his work!
I said it before and ill say it again we can have the two manifolds re tested! AMS and DI! Its up to you!
I have nothing completely to loose do you?
I would like to apologies to everyone for these post!
Tom
Again I don’t like finger pointing and that’s what u did! My plenum is not larger than yours its a fact! I make my statements because I can back them up! Regarding your cnc patents please send them to me! As im an engineer im sure i can RE-engineer them

Im not getting into the details of daves tests as I completely respect him and his work!
I said it before and ill say it again we can have the two manifolds re tested! AMS and DI! Its up to you!
I have nothing completely to loose do you?
I would like to apologies to everyone for these post!
Tom
I finger pointed!? You came on here making a statement that your's is better and guaranteed that it's better than ours.
If you can back up your statement then please do... right now.. show me.
I have nothing loose btw, but I might lose sales if you make false claims though.
Are you an engineer? Since it seems like you're making that claim just wanted to see if you are a degreed engineer.
Dave, can you post a pic of the DI manifold, or give us dimensions on the plenum? From the pictures I saw on these forums, Tom, your plenum seems larger than our. Could be wrong but it looked bigger to me.
Again, Thanks for everything. Keep up the good work.




Here some pics Martin its the one on the right with a single rail. Im assuming its the same one David has but flanged for his throttle body
The other manifold is a dual injector setup
Haha,
This is way to ugly already I have nothing else to say here. Please send me your Email so i can send you a copy of my degree!
Lets test the manifolds Martin!
240ci btw
ohh and all 4 of my flanges are billet and they are a lot thicker
so it may seem bigger!
This is way to ugly already I have nothing else to say here. Please send me your Email so i can send you a copy of my degree!
Lets test the manifolds Martin!
240ci btw
ohh and all 4 of my flanges are billet and they are a lot thicker
so it may seem bigger!
Last edited by Driven Innovations; Feb 8, 2008 at 02:47 PM.
The only thing we are concerned about and Dave is as well (he has mentioned it) is that the test is already tainted before it even starts as the hypertune requires a larger throttle body.
So If the Hypertune does make more power we won't know if its from a better design or from the larger TB. I can tell you right now that Ours and most others tested would of made more power with a 3" throttle body
Eric
So If the Hypertune does make more power we won't know if its from a better design or from the larger TB. I can tell you right now that Ours and most others tested would of made more power with a 3" throttle body
Eric



