Deadbeat you need to track it.

 

^ who is this guy? Let him do whatever he wants with his car.

 

I'm telling him to track it because he is trying to defend his turbo kit from haters. Deadbeat is trying to prove that his ATP kit is not junk. I'm curious to see what a 500whp ATP turbo kit can run and trap in the 1/4mile.

I can assure you that deadbeat does what he wants with his car

 

Does seem a bit laggy, which all the ATP kits are from what I have seen.

Power looks good though, should rip.

For reference, had a RNR GT3076 kit on the dyno the other day, peak torque at 4300, full boost (25psi) around 42XX or so. 3rd gear

 

word^

 

RevMoto, I usually agree with what you and 4-wheel slide have said on other threads. I think you guys are little off here. In regards to money spent on this set-up, there is almost always a better and cheaper route that someone could have gone if they had $4,000, $5,000, etc. to spend when they started there build. Maybe most only have $2,000 to start but can add later and then end up with this out put. Or maybe you should copy exactly what you said to Deadbeat and put it on "Onix" thread about his power on the green. I mean he has alot more money than someone with a HTA 35R does and is making less power and his set up is maxed out. "What a waste? Right?" I think what most ATP owners and possible buyers are saying is that to start out for the money they are not as bad as everyone says. This thread does just show that they are capitable of making some power. Yes he has a full-race manifold but DB says that only makes like little more power than his ported one, so maybe he bought the full-race because it is the best and looks good.

Anyway Congrats on the power!!! Most just hate to be hating!!!

 

The problem is the ATP kit is a bunch of comprimises.

A maxed out green might make close to this yes, but it will also make a boatload more tq, and hp before 5k and will probably only be behind this particular setup at 6k or so at which point you would probably be shifiting in the green'd car anyway.

For 3k you can get a good minimal kit from some of the fabricating vendors on here and either make this hp easily with a 35R kit or make a lot more tq with a properly setup 30R. The argument isn't whether ATP kit's are good or not, its no question that they don't perform as turbokits with real Garrett hotsides do, it's a question of whether or not the reduced price is enough compensation for the lack in performance.

To those that think the answer is yes, why the hell are you spending two thousand dollars on a turbo kit, and another thousand on a clutch and injectors at a minimum, and all the other necessities to put a half assed setup on there?

Scorke

 

yo db your is car fresh bro i saw it today, it runs crazy smooth. good luck with it ,good numbers

 

I absolutely agree with you on this. I do not know which came first the manifold or the ATP kit but The ATP kit is intended for a quick bolt on and a stealthy appearance from cops. They are very laggy kits and normally make considerably less power than a full kit. The other guy you speak of with the green and how much money he spent is completely different. A green car and an HTA35r car cannot be compared because there goals are different. My complaint about this kit is that it is not really worth the price considering you get a better kit for 3k instead of $2200. The way I look at it is if you can spend $2200 then $3000 is doable also. Especially if you go buy a full-race manifold for that kit. Granted he has the best possible setup to make the ATP kit perform but in the end he spent just as much. I am glad he proved me wrong and broke the 500whp mark. But the thing is he can have a better kit that will make an extra 100whp for the same price which spool better if not the same.

 

Post some times when you can.

 

You beat me to it.

 

You mean like this?



ATP GT3076 kit Vs. FPgreen, both on 100 octane, both at 26psi peak

Green and dark blue is ATP, red and light blue is FPgreen

 

Thats whats great about modding, there are a 1000 different ways you can mod. Realistically speaking though most people buy that kit without knowing the pros and cons, some say well i can just fix it later. In the back of my mind i just think about everything he had to go thru to meet his goals. I made the same mistake though doing my build recently. I planned on doing one thing, then half way thru i changed my mind after i already had 3k in parts sitting there that i didnt need or want. I ended up putting them on the car anyway with a friend without much knowledge of building and engine and i paid the penalty. Things got sorted out and its better than ever now, my cars amazing, but i paid the price and it bothers me that the people I knew that could have given some advice never cared to.

I don't get on here to talk ****, i love this car and I'm so into making the fast its annoying the time I spend on here just reading for hours and hours lol. This forum is like crack, should be illegal lol. Its fun trading ideas and just debating different setups and learning. Theres always something new to learn from someone else.

As far as the green... If you drive a green making 450-470 vs driving a 35r making 550-570 youre going to want the green because the response and trq is ridiculous. Thats the mistake i made, I wish i went with a green and just ran high boost and had that crazy torque, it would have been just that much better.

If you check out some of the vids on my myspace youll see the real potential of what a stock turbo ix with just basic bolt ons and meth is capable of. My car was killing 30r's, 35r's on the street that were properly setup, tuned and driven. I respect what 9sec9 did and im straight up jealous that i didnt go the same route. I had bigger plans but i quickly ran out of funds and just gave up. Down the road I'll attempt to get the car how i want it. Time will tell =-)

Thanks for the response!

Cheers!

 

+1000

and deadbeatrec----you need to lay off of the steroids..hahaha...just kidding

 

Just like that

Scorke