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Old May 29, 2008 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1runner
I'd do a 2.2 ltr with a HTA T4Z88 (37R), a 2.3 ltr is really a 2.25 anyway.

If you want a bigger motor, destroke a 4G64 block with a eagle 94mm crank, and spin that sucker to 9500 rpm. If you really want to go crazy, go twin scroll with it

I can't wait to see how this 2.6 works out. I hope he's successful
why bother with a 4G64 when you can strech the 63 to 2.4ltr (102mm crank) and still rev to 9500rpm???? i can PM you a link if you want.

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Old May 30, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
why bother with a 4G64 when you can strech the 63 to 2.4ltr (102mm crank) and still rev to 9500rpm???? i can PM you a link if you want.

Chris.
Rods can be longer in a 4G64 block. Longer rods equals good.

There has been a few guys even here on this board that go 2.3, then later move on to something else (2.0, 2.1, etc.). 102mm is humongous.

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Old May 30, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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imagine that 2.6 liters with an evogreen it would hit full boost @ 2100 rpms
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Haha sounds like my turbotrix 2.3s. They were all junk, all three of them. Not sure if it was the crappy tunes or the shotty craftsmanship. In the end I went back with the stock block, which is WAY more reliable than any 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, or 2.4 I've heard of or have seen. And id bet money that this 2.6 is in the same boat lol... A small word of advice to all you newbs out there wanting to spend 20k + on your car.. DONT! The stock block will withstand (with minor upgrades) 500+ hp and 450+ tq. KevinD in the FTworth Dallas area has 512awhp and 430 awtq with a GT35R stock block, stock ecu, on 93oct and meth inj. If any of you are near there look him up, he's a way cool guy and a helluva tuner.

Good luck with the 2.6L
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by supersilverMR
Haha sounds like my turbotrix 2.3s. They were all junk, all three of them. Not sure if it was the crappy tunes or the shotty craftsmanship. In the end I went back with the stock block, which is WAY more reliable than any 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, or 2.4 I've heard of or have seen. And id bet money that this 2.6 is in the same boat lol... A small word of advice to all you newbs out there wanting to spend 20k + on your car.. DONT! The stock block will withstand (with minor upgrades) 500+ hp and 450+ tq. KevinD in the FTworth Dallas area has 512awhp and 430 awtq with a GT35R stock block, stock ecu, on 93oct and meth inj. If any of you are near there look him up, he's a way cool guy and a helluva tuner.

Good luck with the 2.6L
My TurboTrix 2.3 is still rocking out just fine. Almost 6k miles, and its never seen an easy day yet.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1runner
Rods can be longer in a 4G64 block. Longer rods equals good.

There has been a few guys even here on this board that go 2.3, then later move on to something else (2.0, 2.1, etc.). 102mm is humongous.
as i said mate i dont see the point in building a fully built 2.0ltr when you can have a 2.4ltr (using a 102mm crank) and rev it to 9Krpm.

for anything other than ALL OUT drag racing the strokers will win.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
as i said mate i dont see the point in building a fully built 2.0ltr when you can have a 2.4ltr (using a 102mm crank) and rev it to 9Krpm.

for anything other than ALL OUT drag racing the strokers will win.

Chris,
I see your point, but who is running a 2.4 to 9k, much less a 2.6?
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
why bother with a 4G64 when you can strech the 63 to 2.4ltr (102mm crank) and still rev to 9500rpm???? i can PM you a link if you want.

Chris.
Hey PM it or just post it. I think it's great to be able to spin a 2.4 to 9500.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Talking Finally, Good Info From Brian Crower!!!!

Ok, below are 2 email responses to someone on a galant forum inquiring about the 2.6L Brian Crower Stroker Kit. The link to this forum thread is below and the emails were posted in thread #16 & #24. The kit has a rod stroke ratio of 1.47 which for arguement sake is almost identical to the "4G63 2.3 motor"...why not maximize your displacement and go to 2.6 liters and take it one step further, by using custom Carrillo Pro-H beam rods at 156mm (6.151") weighing in at 575g. and custom JE pistons with the pin moved up 9mm (CH of 1.014") weighing in at 275g and pins at 106g. I spoke to both of these manufacturers and it's doable....very light and very strong!!! Or just use BC pistons and rods....

http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum...ad.php?t=25446


POST #16
"Ok I sent an email to Brian Crower asking about this kit and here is their response:


The 2.6L stroker kit is definitely a good choice. You will pick up approx
60hp and an equivalent amount of torque just by increasing the displacement.
Anything you do beyond this will only enhance the performance. The stage 3
cams are an excellent choice to pair up with the stroker kit. The kit uses a
6.151" long rod to help with the rod / stroke ratio for extended RPM's and
longevity. Cost on the kit is $3300. If you place an order this week I can
sell it to you for $3052. the kit includes 4340 billet crankshaft, 4340
billet connecting rods, custom CP pistons ( any bore / any compression),
ring pack, locks and wrist pins. The kit comes fully balanced and ready to
install. Let me know what you think. "

POST #24
"Ok here is the second response from BC after asking about the safe rev limit, rod angles, piston size, etc.:

The kit has a 6.151" center to center rod which makes the rod / stroke
ratio - 1.47 which is ideal for the stroker application. The engine is safe
to rpm as high as your valve train will let it go (9000+). We worked closely
with the engineers at CP pistons when developing this kit. It has a piston
compression height of 1.014". Plenty safe fro extreme applications."
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:52 AM
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To run that engine at 9K would be stupid, Hell they cant even drill a straight oil hole, run it that high and wait for the bearings and oil pump to get over loaded.

Mark
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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2.6L with 1.47 Rod Stroke Ratio!!!

Who needs to run it at 9000rpm? Just run it to 8000rpm max. With a twinscroll 35R setup for instance, you'd have a an incredible powerband from 3500rpm to 8000rpm!!! Hell, you don't even need to rev it past 7500rpm and you'd still have 4000 rpm's of pure power and torque. At these low rpm's, you could even keep the balance shafts in and have all of this power with silky smoothness! This would be perfect for the Streets!!!!! You could even step it up to the 40R.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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supersilvermr, sorry to hear about your bad luck. I do not think it is normal though to go through 3, 2.3's like you did. I do agree the 2 liter that comes in the car with "minimal" work will withstand HUGE power gains though. I do not see any of our built engines failing though so I think you had some bad luck or something else on your side.

Who is making the crank for the 2.6 stroker kit for BC?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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I think Broadway is making their Cranks and Rods. This name was printed on the crank in the first post of this thread.
DMF Performanc Parts UK are running these 2.6L over 1100hp with good results. Check them out:

http://websites.uk-plc.net/DMF_Perfo...4-10-23925.htm
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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WOW, its Beautiful!
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Yeah, those cranks look real nice!!
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