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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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F%$& lots of damage to MOTOR???

ok just had it built somthing went wrong break in period and everything went smooth AMS 1,500 mile break in..

Evo IX
AEM with 3.5
wisco pistons
eagle rods
arp head studs
BC 280s and springs n retainers
cometic head gasket
walbro 255
1000cc inj
RnR 57trim turbo kit
38mm waistgate
AMS upper ic
22psi tune just had it tuned for 2 days
ok went to the dyno yesterday and had it tuned on a mustang for 412hp pump gas the airfuel was perfect 11.5 to redline ok this is what happen..

went today out to the store and did 1 pull very nice, got the the red light sat for a min the slowshifted all the way to 3rd then did a 3rd gear pull wow it pulled timing like crazy up top i let out about 6k well get the the stop sign running like complete a$$...

well then i pulled in to the store shut it of figured wow sounds like a valve or hopefully a sparkplug car is smoking like crazy at this time its coming from the valve cover breather and the turbos hotside bolt there are about 6 of them...

so **** im freaking out ok i might of blown a turbo seal or somthing its not leaking alote due to the fact that the car is so hot its just burning off the turbo, well i took out my safty tools n begin to check the TB for oil no oil, took the intake off the turbo cold side has no oil, the wheels move fine ok well now i check the cylinders wow one of my pluges melted

ive always heard about this but had no clue what the damages where now im freaking out **** mae im going to half toi get a new piston n rings, head work, all kinds of stuff now im just left blank so i put a spare plug i had in and car still misses and smokes????

i ran out of ideas i guess im going to half to take the head off once again for an ispection my ? is... what am i looking for like parts wise, what could be all the damages be by melting a plug and what could have caused it my guess what that cylinder ran lean as hell PLEASE fill me in
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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If I am reading this correctly the next thing that I would do is to give the place that built it a call.I would also do a compression check and if no compression in that cylinder I would then check it with a Borescope.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boostGotMeLaid
ok just had it built somthing went wrong break in period and everything went smooth AMS 1,500 mile break in..

Evo IX
AEM with 3.5
wisco pistons
eagle rods
arp head studs
BC 280s and springs n retainers
cometic head gasket
walbro 255
1000cc inj
RnR 57trim turbo kit
38mm waistgate
AMS upper ic
22psi tune just had it tuned for 2 days
ok went to the dyno yesterday and had it tuned on a mustang for 412hp pump gas the airfuel was perfect 11.5 to redline ok this is what happen..

went today out to the store and did 1 pull very nice, got the the red light sat for a min the slowshifted all the way to 3rd then did a 3rd gear pull wow it pulled timing like crazy up top i let out about 6k well get the the stop sign running like complete a$$...

well then i pulled in to the store shut it of figured wow sounds like a valve or hopefully a sparkplug car is smoking like crazy at this time its coming from the valve cover breather and the turbos hotside bolt there are about 6 of them...

so **** im freaking out ok i might of blown a turbo seal or somthing its not leaking alote due to the fact that the car is so hot its just burning off the turbo, well i took out my safty tools n begin to check the TB for oil no oil, took the intake off the turbo cold side has no oil, the wheels move fine ok well now i check the cylinders wow one of my pluges melted

ive always heard about this but had no clue what the damages where now im freaking out **** mae im going to half toi get a new piston n rings, head work, all kinds of stuff now im just left blank so i put a spare plug i had in and car still misses and smokes????

i ran out of ideas i guess im going to half to take the head off once again for an ispection my ? is... what am i looking for like parts wise, what could be all the damages be by melting a plug and what could have caused it my guess what that cylinder ran lean as hell PLEASE fill me in
Sorry to hear of your story

Please clarify some details - whom was tuning it two days ago - do you have dyno sheets?

You will need to go over the car to determine is a mechanical issue - e.g. vac line comming off fuel pressure regulator - etc or if a tuning error was the cause.

Al
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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If I am reading this correctly the next thing that I would do is to give the place that built it a call.I would also do a compression check and if no compression in that cylinder I would then check it with a Borescope.
thanks i think the built was awsome i mean why would it melt a plug in one cylinder and doesnt it mean if im having blow by the rings are bad?? Thanks so much for the reply
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Sorry to hear of your story

Please clarify some details - whom was tuning it two days ago - do you have dyno sheets?

You will need to go over the car to determine is a mechanical issue - e.g. vac line comming off fuel pressure regulator - etc or if a tuning error was the cause.

Al
will post dyno sheet here shortly this wouldnt of happen if i had dyno flash

i went over the car n all vacume lines are looking good all i see really is oil resdue around the turbo bolts on the hotside and smoke coming from the valve cover breather i really hope the tunning wasnt a problem hes the only guy left that i trust on my car here in FL with my AEM

well lets just say thank god for income tax if somthing major happen
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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any clue what could of happen now that the plug tip was fryed off??? i mean the cylinders ok the piston ok and the valve ok i mean what couild be the worst case cause i sure as hell dont have the best of luck
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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From the sound of it, it's something wrong with the tune or your fuel delivery system. Good luck.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boostGotMeLaid
well then i pulled in to the store shut it of figured wow sounds like a valve or hopefully a sparkplug car is smoking like crazy at this time its coming from the valve cover breather and the turbos hotside bolt there are about 6 of them...
sounds like you have a broken ringland, with smoke coming out of the breather.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boostGotMeLaid
thanks i think the built was awsome i mean why would it melt a plug in one cylinder and doesnt it mean if im having blow by the rings are bad?? Thanks so much for the reply
Post a pic of all the spark plugs

Are the injector clips on and the plugs secure ?

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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by boostGotMeLaid
any clue what could of happen now that the plug tip was fryed off??? i mean the cylinders ok the piston ok and the valve ok i mean what couild be the worst case cause i sure as hell dont have the best of luck
Severe detonation from severe lean condition ultra high egt

Could be a partially clogged injector - bad injector clip / connection - wiring harness issue

At this point you need to see if its one plug or all of them

Al
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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spin the motor by hand.... see if its smooth or has a little hiccup.


Cheers!
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Just crank it and listen. If your down a hole you'll know it...

My guess is your down a hole...
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
From the sound of it, it's something wrong with the tune or your fuel delivery system. Good luck.
yea im thinking the same
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Injector failure! Bad connection at injector. Seems like it!

Post some pics of all plugs!
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vwjeff
sounds like you have a broken ringland, with smoke coming out of the breather.
so the rings on the piston is screwed geezzz that means i half to buy new set of wisco pistons???
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