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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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orrr, you could search "CBRD secret sauce" if you want to get results.

LOL, how did you manage to misspell all 3 search terms?
That was part of the secret?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PSIcho
That was part of the secret?
Christ...I need phonics
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Kyle
CRBD has something about to come off the shelf...I think this is the reason FP is dropping the price. Search "CRBD seceret sause". They got 100 IX cores on the shelf waiting for the new fresh parts....that way you can get your turbo in 2 days.
Turbo Kyle, if you don't want to buy a Green, why are you always in this thread, touting something else? First it was Deadbeat turbos, now CBRD. Every time, what you post about the EvoGreen alternatives is inaccurate.

Let's take a look at CB's post in the "secret sauce" thread:

sorry, this still isnt the "final" version of our turbo. There are a couple of variations out there... the main testing was the compressor wheel....

There are versions out there with different clipped turbine wheels, we are still waiting on the new turbine wheel itself. It is taking some time, and we dont do anything quickly LOL!!

our goal was a turbo that matched or outperformed the green, but at a slightly less price point, and mainly, that we had in stock, or could turn around in 2 days.

there are over 100 evo ix cores on the shelf to build them new, so that part is covered.

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I think right now, the compressor wheel alone with just a clipped turbine is a great option for autox guys, because the part throttle response is just MEGA.

cb
So, the "secret sauce", whatever that means, still does not exist, but we know for sure that (1) it's not near production (2) the turbine wheel is stock, or a stock wheel that has been clipped, or something that is still under development, and (3) compressor wheel "upgrades" without a larger turbine wheel to balance it have been done in the past (search for "White Rabbit") and are not remotely equal to the current EvoGreen, much less the EvoGreenHTA, and (4) if it is ever released, it will be only "slightly less" than an EvoGreen -- so what's the point?

I'm excited about the EvoGreen, a turbo that's already well proven, with the HTA upgrade that's being released almost as we type that has been well tested, with data to back it up, instead of a couple butt dyno opinions. Get on the bus, and have some fun!
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_VR4
Turbo Kyle, if you don't want to buy a Green, why are you always in this thread, touting something else? First it was Deadbeat turbos, now CBRD. Every time, what you post about the EvoGreen alternatives is inaccurate.

Let's take a look at CB's post in the "secret sauce" thread:



So, the "secret sauce", whatever that means, still does not exist, but we know for sure that (1) it's not near production (2) the turbine wheel is stock, or a stock wheel that has been clipped, or something that is still under development, and (3) compressor wheel "upgrades" without a larger turbine wheel to balance it have been done in the past (search for "White Rabbit") and are not remotely equal to the current EvoGreen, much less the EvoGreenHTA, and (4) if it is ever released, it will be only "slightly less" than an EvoGreen -- so what's the point?

I'm excited about the EvoGreen, a turbo that's already well proven, with the HTA upgrade that's being released almost as we type that has been well tested, with data to back it up, instead of a couple butt dyno opinions. Get on the bus, and have some fun!
The turbine wheel is supposed to be bigger on the final product...read further. Anyway, FP maks awsome stuff and Im ready to see the HTA GREEN. I will probably get Green or the CRBD...its all in the numbers and price. Cant wait for both...I just hope if I get the HTS green the turn around time is worh a crap.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Whats Going On?? Give Us Some Updates Lol
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Fp makes nice stuff,

we wanted to do our own.... please keep our details in our thread, ill stay out of roberts.

cb
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Ok VR4, I flew off the handle but like I said be happy that people have an option. FP makes great turbos and no one is saying different. Who knows maybe we can have a FP vs. CBRD magic turbo shoot out one day.

Last edited by angrydego; May 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM. Reason: short temper
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
If you read this thread, Robert already stated that the new FP Green will flow about the same as the current one (~47 lb/min), but should have better spoolup. I'm going to see if I can convince my buddy to put one on his IX.

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Thats what i would like to do but i'm almost positive hes already thought about doing it. Its just that money plays a large part in turbo swaps. Therefore i can do all the convincing a want,but if he don't have the money he doesn't have the money.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by angrydego
Dude, what the hell is wrong with you? Be happy that people have a choice in the matter. Your attitude is !!! Please find me a local FPGreen to run against and I will show you another person that will wait in line for the turbo I'm testing for Chad. Cheers
Don't be angry, dego. You're just lost, my friend. This thread is the official FP Green thread. How hard is that to figure out? Chad himself asked politely that off-topic plugs for his turbos be posted in his proper thread, where they belong, not here. Guess you don't respect his wishes either. If you want to keep talking about a turbo that isn't an EvoGreen, post it over there, where people may be looking for something else. Here, we're looking for more info on the HTA Green, just like the topic says.

Meanwhile, if you're wanting to size up the EvoGreen for comparison to whatever you're running, I recommend your taking a look at the OKIX car as an example of what the current Green can do. Here, just click this: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=310098
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Your right^^^^edited my post.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 04:13 AM
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My green is going in soon. I don't need all the engineering data, if its better than the standard green which Robert says it is, I really dont care about compressor maps, lbs. per minute, ceo's, or eieio's. People it's going on the street, 1320 feet or around on a track day, not to the moon.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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Once again like it has been asked before, FP red will that be available anytime in the future. Please Answer the question. This information will help determine which way I should take my setup and I am sure others are in the same boat.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Indy Evo
My green is going in soon. I don't need all the engineering data, if its better than the standard green which Robert says it is, I really dont care about compressor maps, lbs. per minute, ceo's, or eieio's. People it's going on the street, 1320 feet or around on a track day, not to the moon.
Indy, will you be applying your intake manifold porting along with your new Green turbo? If so, do you think the Green and IM porting would be a good street combo? Thanks and sorry for going too far off topic.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Sorry Robert, but I'm going to answer this one. FP builds the best turbos in my opinion. I based my intake around FP std Green, if the HTA runs like Robert says and I for one believe him, this will be one kick *** street turbo. Like I said before I built my manifold for 9sec9 and my engine program based on the std Green, this new HTA will set the bar higher still, a good street combo...no...a great one...yes. Keep up the great work Robert and all at FP.
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