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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
well thanks!!!!!!

i wasnt 100% sure it was a stock frame turbo

there must be either some serious porting going on, or actual material being removed on both the compressor and exhaust housings. whats the flow rate of a red?
The housings are machined to match the size of the larger compressor and turbine wheels.

The Red is rated at 56 lbs/minute by FP, but all of the dyno testing results indicate that the actual flow is 60+ lbs/minute...
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Trent, Great job! Your manifold was finished Friday and you should have it next week. Sorry for the delay, but it sounds like your doing just fine without it. It's looking like I will not be able to come up in the near future so when you take out David's car feel free to call from the track for the suspension stuff. Once again congrads. Jim
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
If you setup on a Hobb switch or something equivalent, you can get by with a stock rail. I'm still running the stock rail on mine.
We're talking 1200s with a red. I, too, believe in the stock rail to a point, but with 60lb/min and 1200CCs on E-85, I'd probably do a fuel rail at that point.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Trent, Great job! Your manifold was finished Friday and you should have it next week. Sorry for the delay, but it sounds like your doing just fine without it. It's looking like I will not be able to come up in the near future so when you take out David's car feel free to call from the track for the suspension stuff. Once again congrads. Jim
Thanks alot Indy!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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We're talking 1200s with a red. I, too, believe in the stock rail to a point, but with 60lb/min and 1200CCs on E-85, I'd probably do a fuel rail at that point.
David tested the stock rail and i believe he said it should hold 700 or 800 to the wheel on his dyno, so i was think dsmfan should be fine with his doublepumper and 1200's on e-85. I know we are losing at least 20% flow with E-85 or close to it! Just curious warr, what are you paying for E-85 out there?? All my guys are paying 3.75 to 3.99 out here!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Wow, Good times!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Wow, this thread blew up.

Congrats Trent on the runs tonight. Impressive as always.


I am on Page 2 only. Warrtalon, nobody is running 129 mph on a green on pump gas or 101 octane as this particular set up worked out to, nobody. Trent's car had a stock turbo on it before, EVO8 with this same set up and he was beating the absolute crap out of the car trying to get the car to run 11.90's. That was on the normal all season radial.

Well built GT35r cars we are turning out (the fastest pump gas 35r's out there actually) are running 10.50's at 135 mph and making 550 whp.

I'd say running 10.7 at 129 mph on a bolt on turbo with atleast 100 less whp is pretty darn impressive.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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The red seems to be pretty impressive. Nice driving and please post some results with more boost and c-16!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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The red seems to be pretty impressive. Nice driving and please post some results with more boost and c-16!!!

If Dave gets time this week, I will have him retune it on pump and put some real race gas in, i wont post dyno numbers untill i go to the track, those are the numbers that i care about!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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1320 ft of dyno
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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1320 ft of dyno


TRU DAT!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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wat ex manifold are u using right now??
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shacochis06
wat ex manifold are u using right now??

BR ported and coated stock mani
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoolnupTuning
David tested the stock rail and i believe he said it should hold 700 or 800 to the wheel on his dyno, so i was think dsmfan should be fine with his doublepumper and 1200's on e-85. I know we are losing at least 20% flow with E-85 or close to it! Just curious warr, what are you paying for E-85 out there?? All my guys are paying 3.75 to 3.99 out here!
Oh, I'm a believer in the stock fuel rail - believe me. However, you can't base this analysis off horsepower levels alone, because you use a lot less fuel to make 700whp on gasoline than you do with E-85. E-85 requires 30% more fuel, which is a ton, so you have to plan accordingly. I'm using a stock fuel rail now with 850s on the stocker and running the times you see in my sig. I'd also do 1000s with a Green in hopes of low 11s here at altitude, but I was thinking that I'd be more cautious with a red.

It's $2.79 out here, but we get E-70 in the Winter, which sucks.

David, I'm certainly impressed, too, because of the driving and because it's not being pushed to its limit yet (the Red). I know Greens haven't done this on pump gas for sure and not even 101 oct, but I am not sure how much more power folks make on e85/110/112/116 vs 101 vs C16. I figured pump gas would have the biggest gap but any manner of race gas would start upping the ante quite a bit. I am not sure what was holding back Trent on the stock turbo since many of us are going much faster - his car is built wonderfully, and he's a superb driver. I look forward to seeing how much is gained with a C16 tune.

As for the pump gas guys with 550whp, those are super-impressive, but I don't put a lot of weight in the 10.5s and such - it's the trap speed that shows the power. The ET suffer due to driving in most cases - it's tough to drive a car that powerful properly.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crcain
WTF? WTF? How about calm down.

It's a pretty simple question I'm asking. If you don't have a log or don't know just say so. You just were not giving a straight answer on whether you had it or not.

As for starting a pull at a low RPM... the reason you would do that is because it puts a lot of load on the motor and can help induce det. And I did not say 1500 rpm... but if I'm not mistaken most dyno pulls start below 4300 rpm don't they?
dude you are amazing relax on the whole log thing... FOREVER.
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