Today I tuned one Evo 9 with that TOMEI ARMS turbo and Greddy 260 cams........218KW and 410NM on wheels, such car stock with only full 3" exhaust without cat get 165KW on my dyno and 280NM if i dont mistake, and with stock turbo maxed out on 1.6bar peak and 1.4bar hold i get 205KW and 360NM on my dyno. Fuel i use is RON100 almost same like USA 93 octane fuel, boost with TOMEI turbo is 1.7bar peak to 1.5hold, interesting is that the car have such 218KW power with 1.5bar peak and 1.3bar hold boost, only torque is 20NM on wheels more with 1.7bar overboost. Seems that turbo dont like big boost levels and thats not surprise when we see 60 trim compressor wheel Really powerband is one idea more good than stock turbo, but for these money i will buy at least FP Red if i want bold on turbo.......with Red i get 265KW and 420NM on the wheels with Cosworth M2 cams and 2.0bar peak and 1.8bar hold boost, fuel is again RON100.
If i need to be honest for me that turbo dont worth these money

 

So the red is not worth the money or the tomei?

 

I'm pretty sure he means the Tomei since the Red makes more power.

 

For the price though, the Tomei makes good power.

 

Cant rule out anything yet we've only known about four results on this turbo including myself.....besides greddy 260 cams and 3" TBE..please this test is over line inconclusive. I liked this turbo caused It brought all the fittings as well. I waited a bit, but they are in stock now I believe.

 

That's one of the reasons I'm looking into this turbo too.. Being I have an 8 makes things 100x easier not having to buying install kits etc. Maybe FP should step up and do a package deal for us 8 owners. Hell even package that includes the upgrade oil lines with filters etc.

 

Tomei turbo not worth the money i think, it give only 15-20hp on the wheels more topend 40-50nm on wheels more torque with same spool like stock, and really powerband looks and feel more good than with stock turbo but for these money its not enough thats my opinion......

 

Actually the green gives 20-30whp over the stock turbo, im not sure about the torque. But the Tomei actually gives 20-40whp over the Green with better spool than the green, so i would say it is worth the money.

 

I dont have experience with FP Green but for Tomei turbo i spend one full day tuning and i already wrote results, here you can see them too, graph with lower numbers is from car with stock turbo maxed out 1.6bar peak and 1.4bar hold boost, other graph is from car with Tomei turbo and Greddy 260 cams. On graph with Tomei turbo you see two runs one with 1.5bar peak and 1.3bar hold boost and other with 1.7peak and 1.5bar hold boost, you see 0.2bar more and not difference in top end power thats because turbo work over its efficiency zone. Only the advantage with Tomei turbo is that we have over 200kw on wheels from 5000 to 8000rpm when with stock turbo we have over 200kw on wheels from 5800 to 6300rpm only.

 

Converting from kW to HP, The car isn't making much power. 218 kW is 292 hp.

I'm assuming that the car has all the bolt ons like intake, exhaust, and down pipe since it has cams. All of that plus a tune and it's only making 292 hp seems pretty low.

How I got the conversion is from this site:
http://www.convertunits.com/from/kW/to/hp

 

Maybe Bulgarian dynos read low.

Maybe they use inferior fuel.

Maybe the only thing that matters is the change over the baseline.

 

Such car stock with only 3" exhaust without cat made 165kw and around 280nm on my dyno i will search the graph today, so fully stock it will be around 150-155kw. But problem is not in machine, i use Dynocom USA made dyno but calibrate it to show numbers like most used here European made dynos. Thats because for me USA dynos like Dynojets show very optimistic numbers, Mustang is more acceptable but even they show optimistic results. After that is not correct to compare results from different machines even if they are all made by one company because every machine can have different calibration and what machine show "right" numbers is not clearly.
And yes the car with Tomei turbo have full 3" exhaust without cat, really it have stock airbox with panel "sport" filter but we try to made a test without air filter and no gain in power.
Btw if you look official Tomei site http://www.tomeipowered-usa.com/usa/...7960/m7960.htm here guys show as "graph" where Tomei made 420hp on the crank power when in same time stock turbo made 360hp on crank maxed out, when we accept that its advertisement, so around 400hp to crank is reallistic number for that Tomei turbo maxed out

 

Fuel is RON octane 100, thats same or little more good than USA 93 fuel
And i made the cars tuned with 2-3 knock counts on boost with AFR 11.5-11.7:1, Mivec is tuned for maximum spool too and on high rpms for max power, so if we have a "problem" its the iron, not the dyno, not the fuel and not the tuning

 

maybe its the greddy cams that NOONE uses? a bunch of people here have had good results of the tomei. also you cant compare the red to the tomei. the red is alot bigger turbo.

 

I have to agree here with Cwill....my friend has a Tomei and his car pulls amazing, the spool is just like stock and my brother has a Red on his Evo, when they both race on pump gas the race is so close it depends on the driver....when i get some bolt-ons I think im going with the Tomei its sounds really fun on the streets