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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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I just received the Spark Tech Non-CDI COP today. It was packed very well to protect it on it’s way from Daytona to Indianapolis in one day. It came absolutely as advertised, simple, clean, definitely a quality piece.

I was so impressed I took it with me on my rounds this morning to Don Shumacher’s Top Fuel and Funny Car team compound , and 9 Racing, home to Steve Lewis’s (Performance Racing Industry Magazine) USAC Midget team. There were a few heavy hitters around and they all gave their approval of the clean appearance and killer wiring job done by Craig and company. These guys have won plenty of races and championships and are the guys that have made professional racing history for decades. They know their stuff… period. They were impressed with the quality of the component and were amazed this was designed for a street car. The comment was made that “the harness looks better than the one on our cars” a pretty good indicator of quality and with this crowd you never get too many compliments.

Craig you are a first class act. The service was great, shipping on time, and the product arrived packaged carefully to prevent damage in shipping. You can not ask for much more.

I would and do highly recommend this product, and yes I paid for it. Indy
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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I just wanted to say if I did not already say it . . .

I use the HKS Twin fire on my Evo and have used it to 55 psi of boost and 1060 whp

its a great unit for the price and I have had great success with it

Al
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Hey Al....just a fyi, Anibal barbecue in P.R. former FP red record holder picked up 40whp with a S/T system over the DLI. Just think that would have put you in the 1100whp club.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by skatermsmn
I am in need of a better ignition for my car, thats the only thing holding me back from making bigger numbers on the dyno.. I just want to hear from some of you that have used spark tech or the HKS Twin Power DLi2 Ignition Amplifier. I have AEM EMS if that makes a difference.

Its interesting to note that cars with the AEM always seem to NEED an ignition driver

I think the drivers are really bad on the Evo box

I have a Evo IX with a Hydra that runs so well at 700 whp with 100% stock ignition system. The Hydra ecu seems to have a much more compatable ignition driver.

Al
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Hey Al....just a fyi, Anibal barbecue in P.R. former FP red record holder picked up 40whp with a S/T system over the DLI. Just think that would have put you in the 1100whp club.
One of these days when a customer comes by with one of your systems I will do a back to back dyno test and see it first hand.

Way back in 2003 I did testng with the HKS unit on a bone stock car and made 10- 12 whp gains.

I am very partial to HKS electronic products.

I have previously used the Buschur COP and found it really works well also.

Al
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Lets not forget that the Buschur and sparktech systems both rock! A hard decision picking one or the other to say the least!

Wouldn't be much fun if there was no competition anyway...

Btw, I've read in a few sources that even with an upgraded ignition system they do not recommend make spark plug gap bigger, any comment on that?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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^Drivability is also drastically affected by having an inadequate ignition system. This is due to having to close the gap down to as much as .015 on some applications. If I recall correctly Paul Nelson and Team English used .026 to 1100+whp with our system wired in the High Power mode.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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"Another" COP and the Sparktech basic COP both use the same M&W CDI unit and, I think, the same coils. The difference is in the wiring which connects the CDI unit and the coils, and the manufacture of the plate.

The other COP is made with regular wires and sheathing.

The Sparktech COP uses extremely high grade wires and covering, which has a substantial difference in quality, feel, and appearance. I expect it will last longer, but that's only my impression. Like many other choices in life, buying a system made with higher quality components is not usually cause for regret

I have acquaintances who have had failures with the HKS. Dynoflash apparently has not. That's fortunate, but like the AEM CDI (which has a well deserved reputation for failures) there's no reason to buy a part that has a failure history when other reliable alternatives are available. YMMV.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Thanks for the input guys...but lets leave out the name of any other cop manufacturer. This thread is about the HKS dli and our non-cdi system.

In independent testing by Mike@AWD our non-cdi outperformed the DLI hands down.https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/se...ned-27whp.html


Please note this is our entry level system Proudly made in the USA. Al coming from a guy that likes to waive the

In this economy I would think you would be happy to support an American made product
Just yesterday we hired a friend that lost his job as a commercial electrician.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kav@SparkTech
Indy you have Ignition....time for lift off

Honestly we are honored to be a part of Yours and Wilson manifolds goals for 09' I think lots more people can relate to a true street car running mid to low 11's especially on the budget most of us have to work with in these tuff economic times.
Thanks Kav,

I have been discussing this subject with 9sec9 over the past year. With consumer spending being down it made perfect sense to be proactive and this is why we are developing our Bolt On Performance components. Our goal is to extract maximum performance from a minimum of components.

The Spark Tech Non-CDI COP has become part of the foundation for our Bolt On Performance components build. It will ensure a reliable source of ignition and performance as we add components to reach our goal. One thing is for sure, I will feel confident knowing I have chosen the best non CDI ignition available for our program.

Thank you again for producing a superior product, delivering on time, and for excellent customer service. Indy
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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We are an HKS pro dealer.
We do alot of HKS DLI installs.
We run them on supras, Evos, stis.
We do not see them failing, I have no idea what this myth is about the DLI failing, I see alot of other failed ignition systems and they aren't HKS. You have to install it properly, away from moisture and extreme heat.

I used the dli on both my evo and supra and never ever had an ignition problem, EVER, at over 900 wheel hp on the evo, I am using the HKS FCON Pro.

I can do the test and have cars there, matter of fact I was asked to do the back to back test before, looks like it's time.

I have used the Sparktech and it works well, but this thing about the HKS failing frequently is total nonsense. We have seen bad installs that would no doubt cause a failure if left that way.


Sean

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
We are an HKS pro dealer.
We do alot of HKS DLI installs.
We run them on supras, Evos, stis.
We do not see them failing, I have no idea what this myth is about the DLI failing, I see alot of other failed ignition systems and they aren't HKS. You have to install it properly, away from moisture and extreme heat.

I used the dli on both my evo and supra and never ever had an ignition problem, EVER, at over 900 wheel hp on the evo, I am using the HKS FCON Pro.

I can do the test and have cars there, matter of fact I was asked to do the back to back test before, looks like it's time.

I have used the Sparktech and it works well, but this thing about the HKS failing frequently is total nonsense. We have seen bad installs that would no doubt cause a failure if left that way.


Sean

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Many folks have asked me a million questions about the Spark Tech unit.
Graig referenced my thread in which we proved that the Spark Tech unit outpreformed the HKS DLI hands down!
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