ams Moustache Bar Eliminator
Oct 7, 2009, 04:15 AM
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ams Moustache Bar Eliminator
Has anyone on here tried the Moustache Bar Eliminator from AMS? Was seriously considering on purchasing one but I wanted to hear some good stuff about it.
I can live with it 
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Oct 8, 2009, 10:01 AM
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It's a little bit different sound, it seems like it amplifies the sound a twin disk makes. It's mostly decel noise. It's pretty loud and annoying imo, it may help, but at the expense of another loud/vibrating part, I wouldn't put it in mine...
Oct 8, 2009, 10:02 AM
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This is what i did
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...448a142046aa04
No more slamming noise when you shift hard.
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Almost quiet as stock. Little drivetrain whine, barely can hear it.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...448a142046aa04
No more slamming noise when you shift hard.
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Almost quiet as stock. Little drivetrain whine, barely can hear it.
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It's nice, but for me gets pretty noisy at 60+ mph. I'm actually thinking about replacing the solid aluminum bushings that came with the moustache bar with a set of polyurethane bushings to cut down on the noise. Shifting feel is better, although it is also more sensitive to clunky shifts - read: you'll know when you hit a halfa$$ed shift.
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This is what i did
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...448a142046aa04
No more slamming noise when you shift hard.
Inexpensive
Almost quiet as stock. Little drivetrain whine, barely can hear it.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...448a142046aa04
No more slamming noise when you shift hard.
Inexpensive
Almost quiet as stock. Little drivetrain whine, barely can hear it.
Oct 9, 2009, 03:35 AM
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It's nice, but for me gets pretty noisy at 60+ mph. I'm actually thinking about replacing the solid aluminum bushings that came with the moustache bar with a set of polyurethane bushings to cut down on the noise. Shifting feel is better, although it is also more sensitive to clunky shifts - read: you'll know when you hit a halfa$$ed shift.
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I bought a 'complete' Energy Suspension bushing kit, which comes with rear diff bushings (probably the same thing that Buschur is selling). I am going to see if they will fit with the AMS moustache eliminator bar.
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Oct 9, 2009, 09:33 AM
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If you are using the original Buschur Moustach Bar, it should and needs to be changed to their new one. The original unit was not built to withstand the daily use/abuse the Evo's can dish out. It was not designed properly and can and did result in failures. I know of at least 4 other cars on the verge of failure (cracks in exact same location as our failure). The pictures below show how the center section gets ripped out of the moustache bar and results in continued failure to the rear diff area.
Remember the 'Diff exploding' video? It wasn't the diff, as a matter of fact, the diff was re-used. When the moustache bar failed, it caused the rear diff to rip the driver's side bolt out of the sub-frame, which dropped the rear end down and pulled the drive shaft out of the stub axle. FOR YOUR SAFETY..If you're running the original Buschur Racing Moustache Bar, INSPECT IT! Don't let this happen at the wrong time and cause an accident. I wasn't going to make this post, but I feel compelled to advise others since I don't believe a safety recall was ever made, other than a 1 on 1 recall. One particular person I talked to discovered not only was his failing, but also one of his friends. My replacement was used for no more than 4 passes and upon returning home, it too began to fail. Clear signs of movement. I went back to the stock moustache bar. 13 lbs isn't worth safety.
Notice that the ONLY part different than factory original is the moustache bar. The side diff supports, bolts, subframe and washers were stock/original. What appeared to be happening was the diff could move forward/rearward just enough to fatique the thin metal plate until it failed. Not sure how the new Buschur unit is holding up.
Remember the 'Diff exploding' video? It wasn't the diff, as a matter of fact, the diff was re-used. When the moustache bar failed, it caused the rear diff to rip the driver's side bolt out of the sub-frame, which dropped the rear end down and pulled the drive shaft out of the stub axle. FOR YOUR SAFETY..If you're running the original Buschur Racing Moustache Bar, INSPECT IT! Don't let this happen at the wrong time and cause an accident. I wasn't going to make this post, but I feel compelled to advise others since I don't believe a safety recall was ever made, other than a 1 on 1 recall. One particular person I talked to discovered not only was his failing, but also one of his friends. My replacement was used for no more than 4 passes and upon returning home, it too began to fail. Clear signs of movement. I went back to the stock moustache bar. 13 lbs isn't worth safety.
Notice that the ONLY part different than factory original is the moustache bar. The side diff supports, bolts, subframe and washers were stock/original. What appeared to be happening was the diff could move forward/rearward just enough to fatique the thin metal plate until it failed. Not sure how the new Buschur unit is holding up.
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If you are using the original Buschur Moustach Bar, it should and needs to be changed to their new one. The original unit was not built to withstand the daily use/abuse the Evo's can dish out. It was not designed properly and can and did result in failures. I know of at least 4 other cars on the verge of failure (cracks in exact same location as our failure). The pictures below show how the center section gets ripped out of the moustache bar and results in continued failure to the rear diff area.
Remember the 'Diff exploding' video? It wasn't the diff, as a matter of fact, the diff was re-used. When the moustache bar failed, it caused the rear diff to rip the driver's side bolt out of the sub-frame, which dropped the rear end down and pulled the drive shaft out of the stub axle. FOR YOUR SAFETY..If you're running the original Buschur Racing Moustache Bar, INSPECT IT! Don't let this happen at the wrong time and cause an accident. I wasn't going to make this post, but I feel compelled to advise others since I don't believe a safety recall was ever made, other than a 1 on 1 recall. One particular person I talked to discovered not only was his failing, but also one of his friends. My replacement was used for no more than 4 passes and upon returning home, it too began to fail. Clear signs of movement. I went back to the stock moustache bar. 13 lbs isn't worth safety.
Notice that the ONLY part different than factory original is the moustache bar. The side diff supports, bolts, subframe and washers were stock/original. What appeared to be happening was the diff could move forward/rearward just enough to fatique the thin metal plate until it failed. Not sure how the new Buschur unit is holding up.
Remember the 'Diff exploding' video? It wasn't the diff, as a matter of fact, the diff was re-used. When the moustache bar failed, it caused the rear diff to rip the driver's side bolt out of the sub-frame, which dropped the rear end down and pulled the drive shaft out of the stub axle. FOR YOUR SAFETY..If you're running the original Buschur Racing Moustache Bar, INSPECT IT! Don't let this happen at the wrong time and cause an accident. I wasn't going to make this post, but I feel compelled to advise others since I don't believe a safety recall was ever made, other than a 1 on 1 recall. One particular person I talked to discovered not only was his failing, but also one of his friends. My replacement was used for no more than 4 passes and upon returning home, it too began to fail. Clear signs of movement. I went back to the stock moustache bar. 13 lbs isn't worth safety.
Notice that the ONLY part different than factory original is the moustache bar. The side diff supports, bolts, subframe and washers were stock/original. What appeared to be happening was the diff could move forward/rearward just enough to fatique the thin metal plate until it failed. Not sure how the new Buschur unit is holding up.
instead of going case by case and replacing them on the hush to protect the vendor.its kind of like the fp reds,alot of people KNOW they self destruct but nobody likes to talk about it really.not trying to start **** just saying how i feel.
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We run the AMS Moustache bar eliminator in both race cars. I just inspected it after the last race and everything looks like it did the day we put it in.
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