Bluto, from what you've said you certainly have issues, man. That's great in practice but it's over the top.

I may be unique in this, but honestly I have never had nor do I even know anyone who has EVER had any issues from a modern car engine that was due to oil.

Just change it when you are supposed to and that's it--kinda like brushing your teeth.

 

just use mobil 1

 

WTF

Once again... read your owners manual... and your warranty manual.. they do not say Mobil One anywhere in them. They say

"Fully Synthetic engine oils displaying ILSAC GF-3 certification symbol or conforming to the API classification SL, SL/CF."

If your Royal Purple or Amsoil or whatever meets these specs (read the bottle) then use it.... And whatever your Mitsu friends tell you in the future does not override what is in the owners manual.

This also applies to all of your other fluids. They all have a spec and if your favorite brand meets that spec then use it. Mitsu cannot tell you what brand of anything to use. And if the oil filler cap on your engine bothers you, replace it...

BTW.. you claim to be a mechanic and you are asking a dumbass question like this. Glad you don't live anywhere near me as I will never accidentally take my car to your shop.

ps.. the parking brake standard is the owners manual as well...

 

My only issue is getting what I pay for. I feel Mobil1 is a waste of money. If I'm paying a premium price for a synthetic, I want it to work like a synthetic, not a conventional oil.

I think I had 3X more engine wear using Mobil1 vs. AMSOIL (and my car is NA). I can't imagine what a turbo does to Mobil1.

Maybe the high wear is not an issue. But I feel the few extra bucks on an oil change is cheap insurance on a 30k car.

If oil is not a issue in modern (turbocharged) car engines. Why not use $1.49 qt. of conventional?

I assume Mitsu specified synthetic for many reasons. But Mitsu using Mobil1 is all about marketing.

If I had to get oil from a large retailer, I'd take Castrol Synthetic before Mobil1.

Sorry about my issues, they tend to manifest on Fridays.

 

I hear ya, Bluto--everybody's got issues.

Synthetics are all good and better for the turbo than conventionals = less chance of coking the oil into sludge. At the oil change intervals we have all been brainwashed into by marketing, all synthetics should be no problem.

From your neurosis I would expect you have a turbo timer or just idle the car yourself EVERY time. Even better you should install a "pre-oiler" to use before startups, and you could even run it after shutdown to circulate the oil then too!!

EDIT: whoops, didn't recall your pointing out about your NA car until now--I assumed you had an Evo. So maybe you don't need a turbo timer, but better get the pre-oiler going . . .

 

This for mhunch. if you have to take your car to a mechanic, than you don't need to drive! take the mass transit. If you can't fix your own car than why have one? And Oh BTW, the parking brake is in the manual but it doesn't tell you how to adjust it you idiot! Each car is different and I'm not about to take the console apart to find the adjustment nut so I asked first. Duh

 

the manual for the EVO does show how to adjust the parking brake.

 

Well I don't know where you got you info but I have my manual in front of me. It only says 1) how to set it and 2) it should grab at about 5-7 clicks. It doesn't show how to adjust the adjusting nut which I found under the center console. BTW if any of you guys need to adjust your emergency brake. remove the 2 screws holding the center console and get a 10mm open end wrench and this is how you adjust the emergency brake. I guess it's time to end this thread.

 

ex-honda.. you are a lost cause. "duh"? WTF is "duh"?

Anyway, good luck getting your car to hold up and I expect to see many posts from you talking about how the dealer is "not honoring warranty and not taking care of another EVO owner who has never done anything wrong to his car and has run it under 4000 rpm since day one. Honest..."

Mike
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never have a battle of wits with an unarmed boy....duh

 

Don't know if you guys heard, but Castrol Syntec synthetic isnt a true synthetic oil. It is dino oil with synthetic oil technology... castrol was sued i think by mobil because castrol was labeling their oil synthetic when it really wasn't. unfortunately, castrol won so the label still says synthetic on it. stay away from that stuff. you're paying synthetic oil prices for a little better than dino oil.

mobil 1 wasn't a full synthetic oil either. it says "tri-synthetic" on its label. im not sure, but mobil 1's new synthetic oil may be full synthetic. anyone else know for sure?

and i am totally with this guy about amsoil. when i first used it i was skeptical so i changed the oil at around 8k miles with new amsoil oil(they recommend every 25k or 1yr). there was absolutely no change in feeling or mpg with the new oil... and i can definitely feel if the engine is running smooth or not(engine has 180k miles).
if you want to save money, go amsoil.
and amsoil filters has a higher efficiency rating than mobil 1 filters.

check out the website amsoil info

 

sorry about the confusion ex-honda, i was reading the service manual and i confused it with the owner manual. you are right the owners manual does not say how to adjust the e-brake.

my mistake...

 

here's the page with all the info on mobil vs castrol

 

Most of the other synthetics are not as good, and will not protect your car as well as Mobil 1. The only oil that's notably superior is Amsoil, but it is also about double the cost. In one of Amsoil's test's they concluded that Mobil1, and Red line were "the only ones two oils that really match up with amsoil"

Run whatever you want to in your cars. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could run non-synthetic in your car without voiding the warranty...

Porsche, Chevy, and others have been choosing Mobil 1 to protect the engines of their fastest cars for years. All of them tested various synthetic, and conventional oils, and chose Mobil 1.
Hmmm.... Maybe the average EvoM member knows more about oil than the engineers at Porsche, but I think I'll stick with Mobil 1 for now

Just my .015