Very close in price? A red is what $1700? And a Twinscroll setup with a 35r is $4500+? Well, depending which kit you go with it could be around $5000....

 

Oh def aggred that a T3 TS or even OS setup will def cost you more then a red.
2X the cost plus for a quality kit new ETS, Buschur, AMS, Full Race, AFI.

TS kits cost more then the OS obviously. TS mani, TS Housing, and extra WG and dump/recirc tube will add cost over the OS kits

But the increased power power potential for both pump and high octane fuel are there in T3. OS or TS. All in what you want for your car man. I for one would not consider a RED if I never planned on running High octane fuel regularly

 

the red with oil feed line cost $1950 + $150 for the 3" inlet intake hose = $2100

ETS t3-35r kit = $3250 plus i get to sell my exhaust manifold, 02 housing & down pipe so its not too far off

 

no i dont plan on running high-oct,e85 or meth. so i'm really interested in getting the t3 kit now, your saying ill yield better results with pump gas but it going to have much more lag. rite

 

I put down 425 at the wheels with the 3582 at 24lbs of boost on stock block evo 8. I had HK$ 272's.

 

was that on pump gas?

also would a 3582r be harder on the motor then an fp-red?

 

Harder on the motor I don't think really Those nasty stock appearing freaks are TQ monsters and generally TQ will break stuff rather quickly.

But yes there is no doubt the red will spool up quicker

 

u want great spool with great power potenchel get what i got.
fullrace twinscroll Hta gt35r





20psi by 4k rpm on a stock motor. Not bad for a t4 1.06ar HTA gt3582R

 

^^ whats the difference between the t4 & t3, the size of the turbo housing?

when do you hit full boost?

 

yes its the size of the housing.

I posted a graph on my boost plot so you can see how fast it spools

 

What about the new FP Black if you want something bigger than the Red? If you are staying on pump gas and not looking to go over 450whp then a T3 turbo kit is a waste in my opinion. Reds make low to mid 400's on pump at 26psi or so. An HTA35R isn't gong to do much better than that on pump at the same boost and you would give up a ton of spool.

 

good point, thanks

 

basically in plain english the red is going to spool faster period if you looking for massive power gains then the other turbos you mention are great but if its about 400-450 whp quickly then the red is going to win on pump gas period. from the way your talking and making threads you have been told serveral times you should get a red for the way your thinking etc. so get a ported fp red and be happy and boost on. the red can get you more power then 450 seems you are neglecting this fact.

 

Yes, 425 on pump. I would personally go with the t-3 set up. It gives you alot to work with when (cuz you know you will) you decide to go for more power. After a built motor, the 3582 got me 589hp at 32lbs of boost on pump.

 

Ported head with oversize valves?