1200's ... 1600's even better

 

Doesn't torque=performance? Correct me if I am wrong but if you take 2 cars with same weight and horesepower wouldn't the one with the highest torque be the quicker one? I thought horespower numbers aren't what makes a car powerful but the torque is?

 

^ are you nutts? He is on pump gas! 880-1000cc are plenty! Stop giving out wrong info! If you don't know what you are talking about then don't say anything at all.

 

i thought he said e85 my mistake ill reserve my words

 

^ You are correct 1500-1600 would be good for E85 on a Black. Sorry, I hope I didn't come off as an ***. I just don't like newbies getting wrong info because they don't know any better.

 

We cool man

 

I have raced my Red in a road course many times and I race hard, until now, no complains, and I have the stock oil line. I works so well on my 2.3L motor that I will have a very hard time thinking on something else for the track.

 

torque=twist, and it will get you off the line. HP is a calculated number based off of tq and rpm.

 

How much would it produce on a Mustang Dyno??? Lets says CBRD's Dyno??

I want to bench mark it against the BBK-Full considering the boost levels are the same.. So far, 400WHPs were cracked easily without the Magnus V5..

I think the difference should be around 30WHP or so..

 

+1 torque is cylinder pressure and horsepower is a calculation

To be honest I'm not to sure...I would say 450-470hp on CBRDs The other thing you have to remember is a BBK Full will not push the limits of your stock block. My Red is on low boost and still makes 60-80+ more hp than a BBk Full. Imagine if my Red was on 38-40psi.

If I were you I would seriously look into the Black. The black will give you more hp at the same boost levels. Did you see my post that made were I talked about the Black and the Red and why the Black should be ok on a stock block? It is in this thread post 50.

Mikey

 

Yea Ive seen it!! You ARE a genius I have to say that!

The problem with the Red and Black is the lag!!! I HATE laggy turbos!!! Sometimes i even get bothered by the lag of the stock turbo

Personaly, I want the power of a 35r in a turbo that spools like a stock turbo

I think BBK-Full is my best bet so far!! Even though its not the most powerful!!

May be after a while I will send my stock IX turbo to FP to convert it to either black or Red.. But for now, I want to enjoy good power with perfect spool, and I know for sure I'll enjoy the BBK-Full especially considering the fact that im still 100% stock

 

^ get what you want home boy but I would only get Red or Black. You will not be happy with a BBK-Full at 400hp. You will want more power and will turn to a Red or Black. Full boost at 3800 on a red is really good and 4k on a Black is not bad at all. The Black is your 35r that has the closest to stock spool that you will EVER see. I hope you chose wisely. The Black is the best turbo is you are wanting to whip up some exotic cars

Mikey

 

Do you think the Red is safer on the stock block than a HTA Green? Or which turbo creates less torque?

 

how much does it cost if you send in a ix turbo to get converted to a red-black??

 

It really depends on the fuel, boost, and hp level, but the larger the turbo the less tq it will have. Saying that the Black should have the least amount of tq. If I was doing pump gas I would def go for a Black because it will keep your tq below 400 and your horsepower would be around 500+. That would be pretty safe on the stock bottom end.

A Red is much safer on the stock block than the HTA Green. A lot of Greens on meth or race gas run 500hp/500tq. That will blow the **** out of the stock block. The Red on meth and moderate boost at 500hp would only have 380tq...

The Red is 999.00
The Black 800-1200

It really depends on the Black. A stock IX would be closer to 1200 and a Red to a Black upgrade would be more around 800-900. Don't take my word on this because Robert has not released the exact numbers yet. He did say that for now it would be on a case by case basis depending on the wear of the the turbo and what he has to replace but 800-1200 is about right

Any questions on this should be taken up with the FP crew.

Mikey