419 HP to the wheels on 93 octane
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This is what it looks like when you have an aftermarket intake manifold and HKS 272s:
And the timeslip of 10.7@132mph goes along with it.
No more torque falloff. Of course, this is a 1G DSM engine with a 1G DSM head and an SBR GT-13 turbo.
And the timeslip of 10.7@132mph goes along with it.
No more torque falloff. Of course, this is a 1G DSM engine with a 1G DSM head and an SBR GT-13 turbo.
Did you just drop the hammer @5000 rpm's, or is it just that flat below 5000? I mean, there is nothing below 5000. I am not trying to join in the pissing frey, just curious. Also, how much do you think would be lost on pump gas, say 93? I take a road trip every 4 to 6 weeks to go off and find some good winding roads (around Dallas it's flat as a mirror) and I would not always have access to high octane, and the way a high hp Evo will burn through that stupid small tank of gas, this is a concern.
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Originally posted by joeycoates
Did you just drop the hammer @5000 rpm's, or is it just that flat below 5000? I mean, there is nothing below 5000. I am not trying to join in the pissing frey, just curious. Also, how much do you think would be lost on pump gas, say 93? I take a road trip every 4 to 6 weeks to go off and find some good winding roads (around Dallas it's flat as a mirror) and I would not always have access to high octane, and the way a high hp Evo will burn through that stupid small tank of gas, this is a concern.
Did you just drop the hammer @5000 rpm's, or is it just that flat below 5000? I mean, there is nothing below 5000. I am not trying to join in the pissing frey, just curious. Also, how much do you think would be lost on pump gas, say 93? I take a road trip every 4 to 6 weeks to go off and find some good winding roads (around Dallas it's flat as a mirror) and I would not always have access to high octane, and the way a high hp Evo will burn through that stupid small tank of gas, this is a concern.
And his car is focused on drag racing, and he never launches lower than 5000RPM, so he didn't care about the power down there. So he just hit the gas at 5000RPM.
I was just wondering if SFP had an idea as to the prices on the turbo kits that they will be doing for the Evo and what kind of turbo, hp, spool-up, ect. It looks like they have done an increadible job from what I have seen and am just curious as to what their product will consist of. It is nice to see so many turbo kits coming out as competion will only help the consumer, besides which it is nice to have so many options so that we as the consumers can find something to meet our needs. 
Originally posted by joeycoates
I was just wondering if SFP had an idea as to the prices on the turbo kits that they will be doing for the Evo and what kind of turbo, hp, spool-up, ect. It looks like they have done an increadible job from what I have seen and am just curious as to what their product will consist of. It is nice to see so many turbo kits coming out as competion will only help the consumer, besides which it is nice to have so many options so that we as the consumers can find something to meet our needs.
I was just wondering if SFP had an idea as to the prices on the turbo kits that they will be doing for the Evo and what kind of turbo, hp, spool-up, ect. It looks like they have done an increadible job from what I have seen and am just curious as to what their product will consist of. It is nice to see so many turbo kits coming out as competion will only help the consumer, besides which it is nice to have so many options so that we as the consumers can find something to meet our needs.
Originally posted by trigeek37
yet another thread ruined by Al's hi-jacking... you would think after all his whining about being attacked yesterday something would change....
yet another thread ruined by Al's hi-jacking... you would think after all his whining about being attacked yesterday something would change....
John. that car is a beast.... on pump gas... im scared to see it in the street....
John, congrats on the numbers. I'd like to see your maps if you don't mind. I would love to get a little database going (I can host or someone else, whatever) for AEM maps so we can share info.
Shiv, headwork helps a lot. You also need one of these like Shape said:
Mark
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Shiv, headwork helps a lot. You also need one of these like Shape said:
Mark
www.Quantum-Racing.com
Last edited by QuantumEVO; Nov 21, 2003 at 02:15 PM.
[i]I would love to get a little database going (I can host or someone else, whatever) for AEM maps so we can share info.
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From: Danville/Blackhawk, California
Originally posted by SFPRacing
Shiv remember that HKS .82 A/R is not a Garrett .82 A/R.. it's more like a .58 in a Garrett based on Franks calculations. Also the compressor wheel is only a 57trim. In our opinion it's a relatively small turbo. Spools like a sum***** but as you said, levels off even on our race ported head with 272 cams. Over 8K rpms power fell off. People pay a ton of money for those 3037's when we have a solution that will spool just about as fast and make gobs more power up top and pull hard to to an 8500rpm redline, for a hell of a lot less money. Our solution includes a tubular custom turbo manifold, Tial wastegate 38mm, turbocharger, install kit, downpipe and lower IC pipe for just about $2100. Turbo has a full 1 year warranty and IC pipe and turbo manifold have a full 3 year warranty. For John's car we wanted to do a slightly larger turbo than I'm speaking of and the car would have made much more power. Unfortunately John paid a pretty penny already for his HKS setup.
Shiv remember that HKS .82 A/R is not a Garrett .82 A/R.. it's more like a .58 in a Garrett based on Franks calculations. Also the compressor wheel is only a 57trim. In our opinion it's a relatively small turbo. Spools like a sum***** but as you said, levels off even on our race ported head with 272 cams. Over 8K rpms power fell off. People pay a ton of money for those 3037's when we have a solution that will spool just about as fast and make gobs more power up top and pull hard to to an 8500rpm redline, for a hell of a lot less money. Our solution includes a tubular custom turbo manifold, Tial wastegate 38mm, turbocharger, install kit, downpipe and lower IC pipe for just about $2100. Turbo has a full 1 year warranty and IC pipe and turbo manifold have a full 3 year warranty. For John's car we wanted to do a slightly larger turbo than I'm speaking of and the car would have made much more power. Unfortunately John paid a pretty penny already for his HKS setup.
He also states that, according to his memory, the 76mm compressor on the 3037 was only available in 48, 52 and 56 trims. Only the standard non-GT Ballastic Garret T4 compressor is available in 57 trim, AFAIK. While more expensive, the advantage of the Garret GT series turbos over the standard Garret T3/T4 family of turbos is higher thrust loading capacity (hence their populary in road racing/rally applications) and higher flow rates at similar frame sizes. While drag racing may not demand ultimate durability and longevity, a 24 hour endurance race certainly does. my 2c,
shiv
Originally posted by designmanfx
i dont think anyone is going to give up any maps...not any time soon. hehehe... i know im not...
i dont think anyone is going to give up any maps...not any time soon. hehehe... i know im not...
My customers would hang me by something tender if I tried to tell them what to do with their payed for tune. <shrug>
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