Carbonetics Pro Blade clutch- Mini review
Curt, you have to understand not many can drive like you. This includes excellent clutch modulation on the line.
Quite simply "TQ holding" and "launching capability" or two different things. For AWD car to hold 400tq from dyno run the clutch needs to hold about 550tq to drag with that 400tq.
But aside from that this clutch wasnt designed to be drag race clutch. the spring center will self destruct for most drivers. its just not designed to take that load. My opinion is even Curt has been just lucky with it so far.
I have this clutch as well. not the pro version. I have mine mated to stock fly and ACT 3200. My only complaint so far is pedal is stiffer than i want. I am sourcing parts now to convert to billet pressure plate. The billet plate holds more but has easier pedal. Plus it gets rid of pull setup.
Its a good clutch. It just needs to be used as the designer intended it. I would term it "very delicate" for drag use. Much like dragging on a stock clutch. IE most will kill it trying to hit high 12s. "exceptional driver" will muster mid 11s without killing it.
Quite simply "TQ holding" and "launching capability" or two different things. For AWD car to hold 400tq from dyno run the clutch needs to hold about 550tq to drag with that 400tq.
But aside from that this clutch wasnt designed to be drag race clutch. the spring center will self destruct for most drivers. its just not designed to take that load. My opinion is even Curt has been just lucky with it so far.
I have this clutch as well. not the pro version. I have mine mated to stock fly and ACT 3200. My only complaint so far is pedal is stiffer than i want. I am sourcing parts now to convert to billet pressure plate. The billet plate holds more but has easier pedal. Plus it gets rid of pull setup.
Its a good clutch. It just needs to be used as the designer intended it. I would term it "very delicate" for drag use. Much like dragging on a stock clutch. IE most will kill it trying to hit high 12s. "exceptional driver" will muster mid 11s without killing it.
Kiyo from Carbonetic flat out said to me in the beginning that it won't work for me for drag racing and I'm fine with that and still bought it. Not a drag clutch unless you run 11's or so, and still not ideal, Tilton Carbon/Carbon has been the only clutch to stand up to an aggressive launch and shift with no issue, to bad they only last 3000 miles or so and cost $4500.
Kiyo from Carbonetic flat out said to me in the beginning that it won't work for me for drag racing and I'm fine with that and still bought it. Not a drag clutch unless you run 11's or so, and still not ideal, Tilton Carbon/Carbon has been the only clutch to stand up to an aggressive launch and shift with no issue, to bad they only last 3000 miles or so and cost $4500.
I wish it would hold up to an aggressive launch but the BB FP Black and BR 2.3RPM say different!
you are talking about a clutch that you basically do not even have. The latest version comes with a higher capacity PP, conversion kit and flywheel. your experiences and judgements of what this clutch can hold up to are not really relevant to those of us planning on using this set up
I have more clutch knowledge than anyone that I am aware of. I have tried every clutch type available for the 4g63. RPS experimented with three and four puc spring center carbon clutches about eight years ago. I tried both in one of my cars. I was already aware of the pros and cons of carbonetic four puck before even getting my hands on one.. You can ignore my knowledge and experience if you like. But I assure anyone whos does take heed my advice is spot on..
I have more clutch knowledge than anyone that I am aware of. I have tried every clutch type available for the 4g63. RPS experimented with three and four puc spring center carbon clutches about eight years ago. I tried both in one of my cars. I was already aware of the pros and cons of carbonetic four puck before even getting my hands on one.. You can ignore my knowledge and experience if you like. But I assure anyone whos does take heed my advice is spot on..
Kiyo from Carbonetic flat out said to me in the beginning that it won't work for me for drag racing and I'm fine with that and still bought it. Not a drag clutch unless you run 11's or so, and still not ideal, Tilton Carbon/Carbon has been the only clutch to stand up to an aggressive launch and shift with no issue, to bad they only last 3000 miles or so and cost $4500.
I'm assuming he will say there's a different clutch for each application. No one size fits all. Drag racing is really abusive to clutches. If you have one that will withstand the abuse then driveability is sacrificed. Unfortunately that's just how it is. Big time drag racers replace clutches all the time. Some after every pass they make. It's just the nature of the beast. Clutches are a costly wear and tear item.
Im going to give this clutch a try with my high 10sec set up. When everything is situated i will post my results. As long as it holds the power it says it will i cant see how it could be worse then the ACTs and Exedys of my past. people are reporting no lock-out with the Blade so that alone clearly will make it better then any of the ACT clutches ive had in there. My twin was nice but i warped it in one track day. So we shall see what exactly this clutch can take.