Setup Help?????
Setup Help?????
Hey guys I've done a write up like this before I'm just generally trying to finalize everything now so I can order my parts and get this build started here goes. I can't really get any direct awnsers. Im concerned with fittment issues I dont want to order a part then find out it doesnt fit when it gets here haha. I'm new with this stuff so some of these questions may sound stupid. Car:2006 Lancer Evolution IX SSL
Trans:5 Speed
Power goals: Shooting for low mid/low 10's in the 1/4 500+hp
Use: Street/Track
I'm going to try to explain this the best I can:
This is a list of the parts I already have I bought these before I bought the car due to a license suspension. These are what are going on the car but I'm mainly concerned with the parts im ready to buy are they quality parts? and are there going to be and fittment issues?
1.FMIC-ETS 3.5 Front Mount & Piping
2.Exhaust-Ams TBE
4.Tires-Dunlop Dirreza Radials 235 45 R17
5.Clutch-Exedy Twin Disk
7.Headstuds-Arp Headstuds
8.Timing Belt-Cosworth Timing Belt
9.Clutch Line-Ams Upper & Lower SS Clutch Line
10.Shifter Bushings-Bushur Racing Shifter Base & Under the Hood Bushings
11.Gauges-Aem Volts, Trans Temp & Wideband Gauges, Defi EGT, Boost, & Oil Pressure.
12.MBC-Hallman in car boost controller
13.Control Unit-Defi Control Unit
14.Battery-Carbon Fiber Braille 11.5lb Battery
15.Coil-overs-Bc Racing Adjustable Coil Overs
16.Short Throw Shifter
17.Vms Oil Catch Can
18.Stainless Drilled & Slotted Rotors
19.Carbon Fiber Wing, HIDs & Smoked Taillights
20.Bov-Synapse DV
21.Cam Gear- Hks Adjustable Cam Gear
The following is the list I plan on purchasing Im just generally looking for input and suggestions on these parts as well as a few im undecided on.
The parts in bold I need recomendations for
The parts with * beside them does anyone have experience with are they quality parts?
1.Cams-Gsc s2 cams*
2.o2 Housing- Not sure what to go with recomendations????
3.Intake Manny-Map Rev 3 Intake Manifold*
4.Exhaust Manny- Not sure what to go with recomendations????
5.Fuel Pump-Bushur Racing Double Pumper*
6.Springs & Retainers-Gsc Beehive Springs & Titanium Retainers*
7.Throttle Body-Mil.Spec 65mm TB*
8.Injectors-Not sure about size recomendations????
9.Turbo-Fp HTA 3586*
10.Valves- Should I upgrade these recomendations????
11.Intake- Perrin Intake
******* Also do I need to buy anything else that I'm missing?******* should I get a shortblock, pistons, connecting rods, engine management ect
Also if I list links to the parts im planning on purchasing can someone help me with some decisions some have options when ordering im not sure about. Thank you very much to those of you who take time to read this and help out I really appreciate it.
I have parts for sale as well ill be making a thread shortly otherwise pm me if your intereste in some unopened cheap parts.
Ryan
I've left these out as well these are parts im planning to purchase.
*Brake Lines- Stainless Steel Brake Lines-$115.00
*Coil On Plug- Spoolin Up Coil On Plug-$430.00
Also should I get Acl Race Bearings? Is it nessesary to upgrade axles, bottom end? generally what can I safely run?
Also the tranny and TC are getting built by John Shepard and the tune is going to be done at buschur racing thanks again guys .
*Brake Lines- Stainless Steel Brake Lines-$115.00
*Coil On Plug- Spoolin Up Coil On Plug-$430.00
Also should I get Acl Race Bearings? Is it nessesary to upgrade axles, bottom end? generally what can I safely run?
Also the tranny and TC are getting built by John Shepard and the tune is going to be done at buschur racing thanks again guys .
Hey Ryan
Lets start with O2 housing
I think if you go with something like MAPs or if you want to get pricey FP, or AMS, Map you would be ok.
Exhaust mani unless you are going tubular map stock ported.
Injectors I would go FIC 1450's unless your going e85 then id go FIC 2150s
Valves you can keep stock. The smaller size will allow for the turbo to spool a bit faster.
Motor wise I would just keep it the way it is and have a good tuner tune it and keep it safe then worry about it if it goes boom.
Lets start with O2 housing
I think if you go with something like MAPs or if you want to get pricey FP, or AMS, Map you would be ok.
Exhaust mani unless you are going tubular map stock ported.
Injectors I would go FIC 1450's unless your going e85 then id go FIC 2150s
Valves you can keep stock. The smaller size will allow for the turbo to spool a bit faster.
Motor wise I would just keep it the way it is and have a good tuner tune it and keep it safe then worry about it if it goes boom.
Think about the bottom end even more so of you plan to push more then 400TQ. They are a ticking time bomb after that. If your core is good think about a 2.3 and if not look at a 2.4. You don't want to spend all that cash just to blow your motor and cause damage to other supporting parts. But yeah MAP has all amazing stuff get in touch with Adam he will help you out for sure.
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I went with the stock ported unit from AWD Motorsports, MAPerformance, and Buschur all do as well just different heat coatings, all great units. AWD's unit has been proven at 650whp on Diiiiirks car (he is a stock ECU tuner for AWD Motorsports).
Also at that power level it might do you some good to get a FPR to go along with 1450's if that is the injector you are going to be going with. I think I run 1600's with an Aeromotive FPR to go along with it, then again I am on E85... 1450's on pump sith that turbo still may need the FPR though.
Who is building the car btw?
Who is building the car btw?
Blah to that get a good tuner who will keep your car safe with no issues. Even more tq can be controled to keep a car together even past 400 ft lbs. All this tq stuff reminds me of all the supposed crank walk theorys in the 2g dsm. Funny how 99% of them crankwalked before late 96, and everything after that was due to improper clutch installations.
Blah to that get a good tuner who will keep your car safe with no issues. Even more tq can be controled to keep a car together even past 400 ft lbs. All this tq stuff reminds me of all the supposed crank walk theorys in the 2g dsm. Funny how 99% of them crankwalked before late 96, and everything after that was due to improper clutch installations.
@06MRV8Killer Im planning on having it done at Buschur Racing.
Im gonna post a few links as im concerned with fittment issues if anyone can help out i would appreciate it.
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Turbo- http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer-Turbo
What size Turbine Housing should I go with?
Do I need Anyhing listed below?
FPAIP FP DSM Aluminum Intake pipe $79.00 FPMODT FP Blue Oil Drain Tube $55.00 FPMLSS2G FP 2g Oil Supply Line $85.00 TIMV-R TiAL MV-R Wastegate $362.00 FP4ANFilter FP -4 AN Inline Filter $69.95 LoctiteAntiSeize LOCTITE Heavy Duty Anti-Seize $10.00
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Exhaust Manifold-
1.http://www.toxicfab.com/about.html
2.http://www.shearerfab.com/products.php?itemid=210
Between this 2 which will fit the above turbo and which does everyone prefer?
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Throttle Body- http://www.maperformance.com/mil.spe...ilspec-tb.html
Will this fit with everything else or do I need to order anything extra?
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Intake Manifold-
http://www.maperformance.com/ma-perf...pevoim-v3.html
1. Do I need an EGR blockoff plate?
2. Do I need an Phenolic spacer gasket?
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Cams-
http://www.mapperformance.com/gsc-po...sc-6009s2.html
1.Will these sync up with everything else?
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Fuel Pump-
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...870d661aebb4f0
1.Will this sync up with everything else?
Springs & Retainers-
http://www.maperformance.com/gsc-pow...train-kit.html
1.Will these sync up with everything else?
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Fuel Injectors-
http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cg...key=IS226-1450
1.Are 1450's suitable or should I go with 1550's or 1650's?
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Valves & Stems-
http://vr-speed.com/store/supertech-...rd-p-1259.html
http://vr-speed.com/store/supertech-...ls-p-2225.html
1. Will these fit with everything else, ie size?
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Intake-
http://www.maperformance.com/perrin-...int-220bk.html
1.Will this sync up/fit with everything else?
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o2 Housing-
http://www.maperformance.com/map-tur...p-o2h-evo.html
1. Will this sync up/fit with everything else?
2.What is the difference between interal & external dump?
3.Do I need any of the following? Turbo Outlet Gasket, Donut Gasket, or Replacement nuts & bolts?
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Also I've added a few things to my list
Fuel Rail & Pressure Regulator-
http://www.maperformance.com/ams-fuel-rail-evo.html
http://www.maperformance.com/aeromot...l-kit-dsm.html
1.Will these sync up/ fit with everything else?
2.Do I need an install kit if so which one?
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Okay guys there is the list of parts I need to get I realize it's going to be a pain in the *** to try and sift through all of this info, I tried to simplize it as much as possible. I'm not planning on doing this build until April/May so not a big rush to get this done if anybody out there would be willing to take the time to help me figure this all out I would appreciate it very much. I will also be posting up the list of parts I already have with the links to them as well just in case anything might interfere with the parts listed above. I have a spare Greddy BOV I would be willing to give someone if they help me figure this out in detail you may also e-mail me at Netcruiser8@aol.com if it is more convient. Thank you very much guys I really appreciate all the help
Ryan
Im gonna post a few links as im concerned with fittment issues if anyone can help out i would appreciate it.************************************************** ********************
Turbo- http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer-Turbo
What size Turbine Housing should I go with?
Do I need Anyhing listed below?
FPAIP FP DSM Aluminum Intake pipe $79.00 FPMODT FP Blue Oil Drain Tube $55.00 FPMLSS2G FP 2g Oil Supply Line $85.00 TIMV-R TiAL MV-R Wastegate $362.00 FP4ANFilter FP -4 AN Inline Filter $69.95 LoctiteAntiSeize LOCTITE Heavy Duty Anti-Seize $10.00
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Exhaust Manifold-
1.http://www.toxicfab.com/about.html
2.http://www.shearerfab.com/products.php?itemid=210
Between this 2 which will fit the above turbo and which does everyone prefer?
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Throttle Body- http://www.maperformance.com/mil.spe...ilspec-tb.html
Will this fit with everything else or do I need to order anything extra?
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Intake Manifold-
http://www.maperformance.com/ma-perf...pevoim-v3.html
1. Do I need an EGR blockoff plate?
2. Do I need an Phenolic spacer gasket?
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Cams-
http://www.mapperformance.com/gsc-po...sc-6009s2.html
1.Will these sync up with everything else?
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Fuel Pump-
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...870d661aebb4f0
1.Will this sync up with everything else?
Springs & Retainers-
http://www.maperformance.com/gsc-pow...train-kit.html
1.Will these sync up with everything else?
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Fuel Injectors-
http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cg...key=IS226-1450
1.Are 1450's suitable or should I go with 1550's or 1650's?
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Valves & Stems-
http://vr-speed.com/store/supertech-...rd-p-1259.html
http://vr-speed.com/store/supertech-...ls-p-2225.html
1. Will these fit with everything else, ie size?
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Intake-
http://www.maperformance.com/perrin-...int-220bk.html
1.Will this sync up/fit with everything else?
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o2 Housing-
http://www.maperformance.com/map-tur...p-o2h-evo.html
1. Will this sync up/fit with everything else?
2.What is the difference between interal & external dump?
3.Do I need any of the following? Turbo Outlet Gasket, Donut Gasket, or Replacement nuts & bolts?
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Also I've added a few things to my list
Fuel Rail & Pressure Regulator-
http://www.maperformance.com/ams-fuel-rail-evo.html
http://www.maperformance.com/aeromot...l-kit-dsm.html
1.Will these sync up/ fit with everything else?
2.Do I need an install kit if so which one?
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Okay guys there is the list of parts I need to get I realize it's going to be a pain in the *** to try and sift through all of this info, I tried to simplize it as much as possible. I'm not planning on doing this build until April/May so not a big rush to get this done if anybody out there would be willing to take the time to help me figure this all out I would appreciate it very much. I will also be posting up the list of parts I already have with the links to them as well just in case anything might interfere with the parts listed above. I have a spare Greddy BOV I would be willing to give someone if they help me figure this out in detail you may also e-mail me at Netcruiser8@aol.com if it is more convient. Thank you very much guys I really appreciate all the help
Ryan
Here is the other list I said I would post up these are all the parts I already have with their respectable links. The parts without links are already on the car, the websites may not exactly be where I ordered the parts just an idea of what they are. Thanks again guys much appreciated.
1.FMIC-ETS 3.5 Front Mount & Piping http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...ooler-Kit.html
2.Exhaust-Ams TBE http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...k-Exhaust.html
4.Tires-Dunlop Dirreza Radials 235 45 R17 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
5.Clutch-Exedy Twin Disk http://www.customcarscentral.com/exd...o-viii-ix.html
7.Headstuds-Arp Headstuds http://www.buyimportperformance.com/...p/207-4203.htm
8.Timing Belt-Cosworth Timing Belt http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Cosw...rce=GoogleBase
9.Clutch Line-Ams Upper & Lower SS Clutch Line http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...utch-Line.html
10.Shifter Bushings-Bushur Racing Shifter Base & Under the Hood Bushings https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...eadfc34043c5c7
11.Gauges-Aem Volts, Trans Temp & Wideband Gauges, Defi EGT, Boost, & Oil Pressure.
12.MBC-Hallman in car boost controller
13.Control Unit-Defi Control Unit
14.Battery-Carbon Fiber Braille 11.5lb Battery
15.Coil-overs-Bc Racing Adjustable Coil Overs
16.Short Throw Shifter
17.Vms Oil Catch Can
18.Stainless Drilled & Slotted Rotors
19.Carbon Fiber Wing, HIDs & Smoked Taillights
20.Bov-Synapse DV http://www.maperformance.com/synapse...1a.kit003.html
21.Cam Gear- Hks Adjustable Cam Gear http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...-evo-4g63.html
1.FMIC-ETS 3.5 Front Mount & Piping http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...ooler-Kit.html
2.Exhaust-Ams TBE http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...k-Exhaust.html
4.Tires-Dunlop Dirreza Radials 235 45 R17 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
5.Clutch-Exedy Twin Disk http://www.customcarscentral.com/exd...o-viii-ix.html
7.Headstuds-Arp Headstuds http://www.buyimportperformance.com/...p/207-4203.htm
8.Timing Belt-Cosworth Timing Belt http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Cosw...rce=GoogleBase
9.Clutch Line-Ams Upper & Lower SS Clutch Line http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...utch-Line.html
10.Shifter Bushings-Bushur Racing Shifter Base & Under the Hood Bushings https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...eadfc34043c5c7
11.Gauges-Aem Volts, Trans Temp & Wideband Gauges, Defi EGT, Boost, & Oil Pressure.
12.MBC-Hallman in car boost controller
13.Control Unit-Defi Control Unit
14.Battery-Carbon Fiber Braille 11.5lb Battery
15.Coil-overs-Bc Racing Adjustable Coil Overs
16.Short Throw Shifter
17.Vms Oil Catch Can
18.Stainless Drilled & Slotted Rotors
19.Carbon Fiber Wing, HIDs & Smoked Taillights
20.Bov-Synapse DV http://www.maperformance.com/synapse...1a.kit003.html
21.Cam Gear- Hks Adjustable Cam Gear http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...-evo-4g63.html
Well after you listed the FP turbo, none of the DSM things you listed below that are going to fit. Also Toxic fab only makes manifolds for stock frame turbos.
Are you looking to go into a T3 kit, or something that is stock frame and will bolt right into place of the stock turbo?
Are you looking to go into a T3 kit, or something that is stock frame and will bolt right into place of the stock turbo?
Well after you listed the FP turbo, none of the DSM things you listed below that are going to fit. Also Toxic fab only makes manifolds for stock frame turbos.
Are you looking to go into a T3 kit, or something that is stock frame and will bolt right into place of the stock turbo?
Are you looking to go into a T3 kit, or something that is stock frame and will bolt right into place of the stock turbo?
Thanks though, Collin







