So ive been using Brad Penn for about 2,000 miles now. The first 1,000 miles or so the oil on the dip stick was pretty green. At 1,500 miles it was light green/brown. Now at 2,000 miles it is light brown/brown. I no the green is die but it is worrying me that it might be time for a oil change. I was going to change it at 3,000 miles.

how long to you guys go on simi-syn Brad Penn 20W-50? or 10W-40?

 

if youre running E85, change it every 1500-2000 miles as brad penn breaks down using E85

 

non synthtic = oil break down FAST, no way of getting around this on dyno oils. Brand penn oil is always been good for racing and dumping it.

color in an oil is idicative of oil contaminants building up

 

I run up to 5k on mine with NO issues what so ever, oh and its only 10w30 you should be fine.

 

I'm using 10w30 BradPenn and will be changing it every 3K. I don't think you'd have an issue. With BradPenn being a lot less cash than Amsoil you're already ahead changing at 2K, seeing as most would do a 3K change anyway.

 

550whp and E85,you should probably change the Penn out pretty regular.you might consider switching to a race oil since you are going to need to switch frequently anyway cause of the E85.


i like the ester base group V oils(Motul 300V,Redlin,etc.,or at the very least go with a group IV race oil(Mobil race oil,Amsoil Dominator,etc..much better at heat resistance and the group V is the best against heat and has the best lubricity overall.it does cost a little more though.$13 per quart or so.

 

fuel used is indeed a big factor. e85 will break oil down quickly.
1500-2000 miles with e85
3000-4000 miles on gas
good ring seal also a big factor. built motors often have poor ring seal compared to a factory built block. if your engine burns oil than it is getting it dirty too

 

My BP 10w-40 looked dark green/light brown when I changed it at about 550mi on my new engine so it doesn't take to start looking different. Once it looks dirty like any other oil is when it should be changed but I never wait that long.

 

i built his engine.. from a 850 mile road trip it burned no oil.. it also never popped the dipstick and its still using the stock pcv valve and crankcase vent stuff.. his engines built tight but not to tight.. i did my homework. his engine can go for 2000+ miles with no oil loss even after beating on it.

e85 gets past the rings more then regular gas yes.. and it will break down the oil quicker.

it also got 300 miles to a tank almost on e85 lol. his engines nice.

 

On this oil i went on a 900 mile road trip, tracked 4 passes, n driven hard on the street daily.
Putting on 1,000 miles my motor burnt maybe an 1/8 a qt. No more then a stock evo motor.

Great stuff in this thread thanks alot. was just making sure i wasnt crazy. im going to change it every 2,000 miles. due being driven hard, and E85.

Brad Penn local dealer is 5 mins away and was like $35 w/ filter no shipping

 

I think if you are keep using that oil, its good to send for oil analysis and see how many milies you can actually go more/less. Idk just my two cents.

 

1000 highway miles are as easy as miles get.

 

i have a few hundred really hard miles tho.. id reather be safe then sorry

 

The unique green color of the Brad Penn® PG1® High Performance Oils clearly sets these oils apart from their competition and assures the customer that he is indeed getting oils of the highest level of quality and performance that meet or exceed the demands placed upon engines in appropriate racing, high-performance, classic or legacy applications as represented by Brad Penn®. The green coloration does indeed dissipate over a period of time when exposed to the heat and operating conditions within an engine. The green color can also be ‘masked’ by the dark coloration of contaminants and combustion by-products that are created within the engine and are removed and held in suspension by the crankcase oil. Since such conditions can vary widely from vehicle to vehicle, the depletion of the green coloration of the oil cannot be relied upon as a dependable indication of oil condition and/or for establishment of proper drain intervals. This is especially true when using E85 fuel with our High Performance oils. In 2010 the API ‘SN’ performance category was introduced to meet the more demanding needs of 2011 and newer model year cars and light duty trucks including those that are designated as ‘Flex-Fuel’ and are set up to use either gasoline, E85 or any mixture of gasoline and ethanol. The engine oils required for use in these ‘Flex-Fuel’ vehicles (i.e. API SN rated) incorporate fuel dispersant chemistries that are designed to protect internal engine components from the corrosive and deposit forming effects of ethanol containing fuels, especially E85. As in your application, when using E85 fuel with our Brad Penn® PG1® SAE 20W-50 High Performance Oil, because of the potential negative effects of the E85 we recommend that oil change intervals be reduced from those that would be typical if using conventional gasoline fuel. The best and only reliable way to determine crankcase oil condition and proper drain intervals is to have the oil tested by a reputable oil testing laboratory. To start from a conservative standpoint you could begin by draining at the current 2000 miles and sending a sample of the drain for analysis. Be sure to mention on the form you submit to the lab with the sample that you are using E85 fuel. Most labs have experience with E85 fuel and its use with conventional engine oils. They can offer excellent information regarding overall oil condition at this 2000 mile interval and can offer an educated opinion of whether or not the oil can be used beyond the 2000 mile mark and when during that extended period the oil should be drained and sampled once again. By using several of these testing periods you can establish a pretty reliable and comfortably ‘safe’ drain interval.

You may also want to check out the link below to our PG1® website and read an article specifically commenting on the use of E85 with our High Performance Oils:

http://www.penngrade1.com/CMSFiles/F..._BRAD_PENN.pdf

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that pdf says not to use it with e85.. i been doing it for the last 2 years now lol. no issues here. and half the forum uses brad penn as well with e85.. no issues. i will continue to use it.

I'll talk to Steve / 5LEEPERISAH23I about sending a sample to blackstone.