^ Hey gotta pay to play.

3500 Tilton Clutch
new Evo gear box rebuilt... 3000
New Evo transfer case rebuilt... 3500

10k right there And that's not showing the recurring cost of discs, gears, synchros, and ring and pinions!

 

at $10,000 i would have to pass and go to dogbox and air shifter.coolest setup i've ever seen anyway is that air shifted dogbox,and i think you can get in it for right at 10k.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7jmB...ayer_embedded#!


love that car.

 

i don't think the air shifted setup is anything cheaper than the 10k setup I quoted... that's probably closer to 20k lol.

Granted it is awesome. Have you seen Emery shift before?

 

i had no idea they were $20,000?

i figured $7,000 for the box and $3,000 for the STM ghost shifter with Ikeya shifter.then you need an air tank $200 and some elbow grease and what am i missing?it looks like you could actually do it cheaper on a drag only car.

i'm actually talking myself into this crap right now.i just decided,when my Quartermaster gives out,i am going to the air shifted dog box.

 

Masonh, how fast have YOU actually gone in your Evo at the track?

 

Thats my buddy Leo with that dogbox. Ive driven it on the street and its not so bad. Just dont get into traffic with it. Total he probably has $20k into that setup and it already broke so Id say go with the auto for sure. I know its something ill be considering in the future.

 

I am a bit confused. You have two trans in action. They dont have the casted part? If not why go the casted route if it increases cost that much??

I bet these kits will never loose value being so rare. Sounds like there wont be enough to fill the market even?

 

I think he has to go the casted route as the existing trans don't exist in the quantities to meet the need. He happened to find enough of them for the first few orders, but not enough to make them indefinitely.

 

Correct, I have been lucky enough to locate a few of the transmissions to build from, in order to do any quantity castings have to be done.

 

you are missing the clutch kit from your calculations...

dogbox 7000
shifter 3000
clutchkit 4000
plus labor, plus consumables like clutch discs etc, every now and then plus the risk of braking parts way more often than an auto... you are looking probably 1.5-2 times the cost of an auto, without even having the consistency of one...

Even at 10,000 for a complete solution that supports 8 sec EVOs and being very consistent is actually a very fair price!

 

still just as confused..

so are we saying there were three trannies found that didnt need the cast part,
and a second trans that is available in quantities but will need the cast part to make it work?

 

People being confused is part of all this, I'm not completely stupid. I have no desire to help anyone, lead them to this, tell them what it is, how I am doing it, what it takes to make it work or anything else. I've got 9 months and $25,000 in my trans, that is the MOST accurate information I am giving out about this project well that's not true. There is the other accurate information and that's anyone who wants one will need to submit their name and contact information to be to get on the list and have $7500 ready when I call them.

 

Get this Jerry.

The transmission in it's OEM sold in a car condition is rare. So rare, Dave only has 3 of them. Those three he is/has building/built. Since finding cores is so difficult, Dave has chosen to cast his own transmission case and make the gears, stuff, etc that need beefing up.

 

actually I dont think thats right. I dont think he is making transmissions . At least no gears anyway. Thats why he is being so secrative. He doesnt want people top know what vehicle the trans comes in. Cause then of course they wouldnt have to buy one from Dave if they can find one themselves. I think what he is doing was already stated earlier in one of the other threads. The evo tcase doesnt directly bolt up so they had to either modify the tcase or recast the bell housing/or tcase housing so it does directly bolt up. Plus of course all the mounts are different geometry as well. Adding up everything in my head is he prolly making 50% profit on each trans which he so deserves for taking this project on.

 

oh i forgot labor and consumables don't apply to a full conversion?clutch kit $4000?how about $1500 for a QM.full auto conversion will be a little labor intensive as well.i think at this point most of us are doing all/most of the labor ourselves anyway.

i've seen several air shifted dog boxes and they look awfully consistent to me.i think it's a little early for you to claim the DB auto is more consistent and reliable than an air shifted dog box.

have you driven one yet?has anyone?

it's not like you can out this auto in your car and never have to work on it,trust autos need work too when you race them all the time.

honestly i don't know why i am trying to argue in a kool-aid thread this.like i said before i am all for a good,strong,reliable,cheap auto transmission for the EVO.

$10,000 is not cheap and i would take a different road at that price point.i would spend another $1000-$1500 and get the coolest setup on the planet,that also happens to shift very well and is repeatable and very strong.


i agree.i understand why he is being secretive,but there will be others to follow once these start getting out there.

i would say more at the new price of $10,000,but he also has a lot of R+D and blood,sweat and tears in these too.i honestly think the price is fair for what it is.these transmissions will need work though.people seem to think they can drop this in and be done with work to their EVO drivetrain,but an auto tranny seeing constant 1/4 mile passes will need intermittent work as well.