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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:58 AM
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At those prices a BBK is cheaper!


Damn, I sold my DBB green a few weeks to early.
Actually from what I see on their website it's $2485 for the turbo with stock WGA and non surge ported housing.

It's an additional $165 for the surge ported housing.
http://cbrd.mybigcommerce.com/cbrd-3...series-turbos/

Then an additional $135 for the HP WGA.
http://cbrd.mybigcommerce.com/cbrd-h...series-turbos/

So to build it they way we sell it and no oil line it's $2785.

That's $135 more than ours and you don't get an oil line.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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I like how FP's trying to improve on a product and everyone is bit*** about it. For christ sake, atleast their still in the evo game. Unless there is weak a** numbers coming from the switching of housing after testing is done, everyone should relax and mainly just stfu lol.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael @ FP




We don't have a firm release date we're going to build a batch and once they're built and ready to ship we'll release the.



- Michael
Awesome thank you sir. Will there be a huge difference in spool and power with the zypher ( the name alone makes me want one haha) compared to the black or is that data still under wraps for the time being? I'm doing another build this year but waiting on these turbos to have a bit more info before choosing a turbo set up. The motor will be an ER 2.2slr. I'd like to build a street beast thank you again sir
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael @ FP

We understand that California can be a pain in the *** and we sympathize but at the end of the day we can't force MHI to keep producing loose turbine housings. It was the only housing we trusted to get the job done the chinese knock offs are poorly made out of unknown materials and were too thin for us to put 67MM wheel in without worrying about it melting through.

So we designed our own turbine housing with the idea of maximizing and expanding the EVO line up and we believe in the coming months you'll get the whole picture of what we have in store for this turbine housing and you'll all be pleased.

- Michael

Im really greatful that there are still companies like you guys developing new products for our platform. I guess in all reality it doesnt look all that difficult to fab up some oem looking shields to hide the ewg and make it look more oemish.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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You are certainly most welcome and thank you for taking the time to read it!

- Nate

Until this thread I honestly didn't know you guys didn't use a genuine MHI housing. So for the sake of curiosity, what differentiates your housings from say, a Kinugawa one? Not necessarily meaning about physical dimensions, but rather its metallurgy and materials vs the MHI. Does this company make them to your specs for your company?
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TommiM
Until this thread I honestly didn't know you guys didn't use a genuine MHI housing. So for the sake of curiosity, what differentiates your housings from say, a Kinugawa one? Not necessarily meaning about physical dimensions, but rather its metallurgy and materials vs the MHI. Does this company make them to your specs for your company?
Kinugawa doesn't make our turbine housings...and I would prefer to not divulge the source of our turbine housings specifically, for obvious reasons. To answer your question specifically, our turbine housings are made to our specifications...there are some dimensional key differences on our turbine housings and we will be highlighting in an upcoming blog post but to quickly name them here (I will cover the EVO X Turbine housings simply because I am more familiar with that particular casting):

Thicker divider at the crucial nozzle point, which is common to crack and was originally pointed out by FP in relationship to OEM housings being sent in for rebuild

Additional material added to the top of the casting to accommodate for machine work necessary to introduce a larger turbine wheel

Much higher Nickle content specifically conducive to manifold and turbine housing applications and vastly superior to that of your average "Chinese" casting
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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As for the stock housings not being able to handle heat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRBl5...ature=youtu.be

That's a 17 minute torture test using our BB EVO 9 Green and a MHI housing. It stood up just fine, a few other housing that we've tested lasted about 5 minute the majority though either melted the WG flapper or through the housing itself in under 1 minute.

- Michael
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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...... And on that day began the Great Turbo War of 2014 haha
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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I would think it would have been in FP's interest to offer a downpipe with their name on it.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by soderdna
...... And on that day began the Great Turbo War of 2014 haha
Qft Who the **** really cares who's housing is made where results are your best advertisement!
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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Fp made all of us guinea pigs with the oil line situation. First no oil line required, then ss line with filter from the head, then the required oil list, then from the oil filter housing, then changing the bearing design completely.

Hard to bag on MAP for warranting turbos while finallizing their turbine housing casting.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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This is quite possibly the dumbest argument of "context" I've ever seen.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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Hey just wondering does this mean the HTA JB green will have a 67mm turbine wheel now? If yes would love to see some data comparing the two
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladey
Hey just wondering does this mean the HTA JB green will have a 67mm turbine wheel now? If yes would love to see some data comparing the two
I think that the HTA Green has always had a 67 mm (inducer) turbine wheel. The exducer value they list on the updated HTA Green product page matches what I measured before I installed my JB HTA Green.

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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I think that the HTA Green has always had a 67 mm (inducer) turbine wheel. The exducer value they list on the updated HTA Green product page matches what I measured before I installed my JB HTA Green.
I always thought it used the 65mm wheel which if i remember correctly it said on there website, but we shall see Wonder if this will give the green a bit more top end?
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