FP Stainless Housing
http://cbrd.mybigcommerce.com/produc...ll-Ported.html
Come again?
MAP and Kinugawa use Chinese housings not geniuine MHI housings. CBRD is ordering a complete EVO 9 turbocharger and scavenging the turbine housing off of it that's why it's $200 more than our $1695 Green model and their BB turbos are $100 more and don't include an oil line.
We're kicking around the idea of doing the same thing ordering a stock EVO 9 turbo and scavenging the turbine housing but the price will go up substantially over what it is now.
We knew full well going into this that some people would be turned off by it, and that's ok. This is for people who want the absolute best who are tired of sacrificing power at the hands of a stock frame housing but who don't want to spend $1500+ on a hot parts kits to go T3 and worry about if their manifold is going to crack in a few months.
We've done this time and time again, brought out a new product and had to listen to people like yourself tell us how we were going to go out of business. Despite the nay sayers we're still here, and we're still selling more turbos, why because we don't do anything we don't 100% believe is better and can prove it's better through real world use.
-Michael
Come again?
MAP and Kinugawa use Chinese housings not geniuine MHI housings. CBRD is ordering a complete EVO 9 turbocharger and scavenging the turbine housing off of it that's why it's $200 more than our $1695 Green model and their BB turbos are $100 more and don't include an oil line.
We're kicking around the idea of doing the same thing ordering a stock EVO 9 turbo and scavenging the turbine housing but the price will go up substantially over what it is now.
We knew full well going into this that some people would be turned off by it, and that's ok. This is for people who want the absolute best who are tired of sacrificing power at the hands of a stock frame housing but who don't want to spend $1500+ on a hot parts kits to go T3 and worry about if their manifold is going to crack in a few months.
We've done this time and time again, brought out a new product and had to listen to people like yourself tell us how we were going to go out of business. Despite the nay sayers we're still here, and we're still selling more turbos, why because we don't do anything we don't 100% believe is better and can prove it's better through real world use.
-Michael
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I finally got word back from MHI and I got a line on a way to get the MHI 10.5TH that we've been using however it's gonna cost us $600 more to build the turbos than it did before because I have to order whole new EVO 9 Turbos. That being said if you wish to keep the 10.5 housing it will be an additional charge of $300 because I have to order a whole turbo to get the turbine housing.
This is the only way we can continue to make these turbos in the stock housings for those of you who want to retain the 100% stock appearing factor. We'd rather sell you the better performing housing but if you have to have the MHI unit there ya go.
-Michael
This is the only way we can continue to make these turbos in the stock housings for those of you who want to retain the 100% stock appearing factor. We'd rather sell you the better performing housing but if you have to have the MHI unit there ya go.
-Michael
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See his comment where he said they knew that they would loose some customers going into this. I think its safe to say anyone who wanted a true stock frame turbo either needs to buy a used one or needs to look elsewhere.
For those of you where this wasnt as important FP is still the win.
For those of you where this wasnt as important FP is still the win.
I don't think the manifold was really designed specifically for the new housing. Robert originally built it so they could get better datalogging of each cylinders exhaust back pressure.
It's not any different then other manifold, its just a good cast manifold versus others tubular ones. I highly doubt other manifolds won't well that have performed good with the standard type housings.
For everyone complaining about price I'm sure in the next 6 months you will see lots of other options from people like ETS, JMfab, along with others.
It's not any different then other manifold, its just a good cast manifold versus others tubular ones. I highly doubt other manifolds won't well that have performed good with the standard type housings.
For everyone complaining about price I'm sure in the next 6 months you will see lots of other options from people like ETS, JMfab, along with others.
Just goes to show we won't lie to you to sell you something.
The manifold was designed to be ran with one of our larger turbochargers and no testing was done with a stock turbo. That being said some people may seem some gains if the existing manifold is restrictive but the majority of stock turbo guys will not see a noticeable difference in power/response.
As far as the price show me another manifold that will perform like ours, is not prone to cracking, and will fit the factory heat shield for $400.
- Michael
The manifold was designed to be ran with one of our larger turbochargers and no testing was done with a stock turbo. That being said some people may seem some gains if the existing manifold is restrictive but the majority of stock turbo guys will not see a noticeable difference in power/response.
As far as the price show me another manifold that will perform like ours, is not prone to cracking, and will fit the factory heat shield for $400.
- Michael
So I see a lot of guys complaining about the new housing. But if you really think about it at least there still coming out with things for our cars that make them faster. Unlike some that have moved on to a more profitable plateform I.e. gtrs, yes of course its expensive right now it's brand new just like any new technology that first comes out it's always pricy.
I think we should be a little more appreciative that there are companys that haven't moved on and that are still doing a whole lot of R&D and coming out with bigger and better things. Let's all not forget this is FP not some no name China made stuff I'm sure they aren't going to drop a crappy power less turbo that males no sense. Its new and to most that's kinda hard to deal with but let's not be to quick to jump to conclusions just yet.
I've asked a few times and I don't think FP is ready to answer but is there any word on when the zero or zypher might drop?
I think we should be a little more appreciative that there are companys that haven't moved on and that are still doing a whole lot of R&D and coming out with bigger and better things. Let's all not forget this is FP not some no name China made stuff I'm sure they aren't going to drop a crappy power less turbo that males no sense. Its new and to most that's kinda hard to deal with but let's not be to quick to jump to conclusions just yet.
I've asked a few times and I don't think FP is ready to answer but is there any word on when the zero or zypher might drop?
Aside from the price difference, my main concern with this is the steatlh factor being as I live in California. Id gladly take a slightly more restrictive housing, but at least I will be able to register my car out here. Its been a hassle for me just because of my ETS intercooler pipes
Aside from the price difference, my main concern with this is the steatlh factor being as I live in California. Id gladly take a slightly more restrictive housing, but at least I will be able to register my car out here. Its been a hassle for me just because of my ETS intercooler pipes
If you have a 9 turbo, you can send in your own housing and FP will use it to build your turbo. But if you have to buy a complete 9 turbo just to get a turbine housing you need for your state inspection, that will soon get expensive, and then impossible as the sources dry up. Glad we don't all live in CA...
I believe you're reading too much into my post, I was not "blasting" them I was providing proof that other companies that do the same thing has us are having the same issue and explaining the reason why their turbos were more expensive than our w/o an oil line.
-Michael
-Michael
I'll look into getting that data.
Aside from the price difference, my main concern with this is the steatlh factor being as I live in California. Id gladly take a slightly more restrictive housing, but at least I will be able to register my car out here. Its been a hassle for me just because of my ETS intercooler pipes
So we designed our own turbine housing with the idea of maximizing and expanding the EVO line up and we believe in the coming months you'll get the whole picture of what we have in store for this turbine housing and you'll all be pleased.
- Michael
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