How do I alleviate throttle lift bucking at 0-5 psi?
I maintain that the bov isn't reacting proper. Do you have a dedicate bov vac line? With no leaks? How much vac at idle an how much at cruise overrun ? What hot side on the green?
Edit didn't see ya say 'ill check'
Edit didn't see ya say 'ill check'
Last edited by 211Ratsbud; Mar 5, 2014 at 05:51 PM.
Another bump for drivability tuning tips.
I get mild bucking on the street, but it's really bad on track (road course) at high rev's and mid -> lift throttle.
VIII, totally stock intake, 9DV w/ dedicated line, stk 9.8 turbo, 3-port on tephra v7, TX-264 cams, exhaust.
I get mild bucking on the street, but it's really bad on track (road course) at high rev's and mid -> lift throttle.
VIII, totally stock intake, 9DV w/ dedicated line, stk 9.8 turbo, 3-port on tephra v7, TX-264 cams, exhaust.
For those running TephraV7 what is your TPS vs. WGDC setting? Mine has the WGDC matching TPS (0/0, 10/10, 25/25...).
How about timing in the region that bucks? Mine's in the low 3X deg range.
How about timing in the region that bucks? Mine's in the low 3X deg range.
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Attaching two log files that I believe capture the event.
Looks to me like the BOV is opening to soon/easily as I see Airflow jump significantly while backing off throttle.
thoughts?
Looks to me like the BOV is opening to soon/easily as I see Airflow jump significantly while backing off throttle.
thoughts?
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yeah, if it happens at slight throttle lift, its the dv. when the dv opens, the charge piping rapidily depressurizes. most people have their dv installed in push mode, so once the pressure drops, the dv closes. pressure rebuilds, and the dv opens again. the vacuum signal can also contribute. its basically an overreactive poorly damped feedback loop. i've tried three different well designed aftermarket dvs, and while i was able to adjust where it happens and lessen the severity, i was never able to completely eliminate it.
some dvs like the synapse and tial qrj can be operated in pull mode where opening depends almost entirely on the vacuum signal. this can help but in my experience, its not a perfect solution.
a dv with a more progressive opening to allow better control over charge pipe pressure reduction would be ideal, but in my conversations with synapse a few years ago, they were either uninterested in the idea, or they felt it couldn't be done. wasn't clear on which it was.
the maf does seem to be strongly affected by the reduced or reversed air flow caused by the dv opening, and for many people, switching to sd helps a bunch.
some dvs like the synapse and tial qrj can be operated in pull mode where opening depends almost entirely on the vacuum signal. this can help but in my experience, its not a perfect solution.
a dv with a more progressive opening to allow better control over charge pipe pressure reduction would be ideal, but in my conversations with synapse a few years ago, they were either uninterested in the idea, or they felt it couldn't be done. wasn't clear on which it was.
the maf does seem to be strongly affected by the reduced or reversed air flow caused by the dv opening, and for many people, switching to sd helps a bunch.
I don't have this problem anymore after tuning the synchronic as I specified here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...g-results.html
although, I think all of my problems were at highway speeds so maybe it's irrelevant.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...g-results.html
although, I think all of my problems were at highway speeds so maybe it's irrelevant.
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