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Originally posted by evo8power
hmm didnt beat my torque yet and i have way less modds!!!
I guess this is directed at smackdaddy -- if so, on one of his runs he hit 366 torque I believe.Originally posted by evo8power
hmm didnt beat my torque yet and i have way less modds!!!
Besides that, I would like to get my car on Xotic's dyno and see how it compares.
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my modds list is small, all bolt ons and a dynoflash, only have $2200 in modds, thats pretty damn good if you ask me!!!
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Originally posted by smackdaddy
Damn, figure in 20% drivetrain loss and that comes out to be about 460 flywheel hp!
standard turbo is not good for more than 400 bhp!Originally posted by smackdaddy
Damn, figure in 20% drivetrain loss and that comes out to be about 460 flywheel hp!
let's see, 277 bhp standard evo....
exhaust, cams, and ecu = 183 bhp improvement!!!!!!
aaahhhhhhhh!!!! no.
wake up people.
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Originally posted by rico
standard turbo is not good for more than 400 bhp!
let's see, 277 bhp standard evo....
exhaust, cams, and ecu = 183 bhp improvement!!!!!!
aaahhhhhhhh!!!! no. wake up people.
I'd say its good for a little more than 400bhp. Buschur made 371whp on a dynojet with theirs. If we use the 20% drivetrain loss rule, thats around 460bhpOriginally posted by rico
standard turbo is not good for more than 400 bhp!
let's see, 277 bhp standard evo....
exhaust, cams, and ecu = 183 bhp improvement!!!!!!
aaahhhhhhhh!!!! no.
wake up people.
http://www.buschurracing.com/EVO8_ST...72_BRFLASH.jpg
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BUscher's dyno reads super high since it is 2WD. I get about 20% loss on my AWD dyno and my numbers read at least 10% lower than Buscher's. If Buscher claims 20% loss on his 2wd, he's just dead wrong. On his it's more like 10%. 400 HP is possible on stock turbo sure, but it gets exponentially more expensive once you get to 300-310 whp. I went from 229 whp to 308 whp with my stage 2 package which is very inexpensive and easy install. That's 79 whp gain. Best way to go up from there is to get a bigger turbo on there and get yourself 400 whp. It's probably much cheaper than trying to go with cams, cam gears, intake manifold and will be much more fun to drive with even more potential for bigger numbers later on. I don't see cams as a very good cost effective mod on the stock turbo. It's good for some power but you can get over 400 whp easily with a decent turbo upgrade and stock cams and have the ability to get even more power with cams later on.
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Originally posted by Guru
BUscher's dyno reads super high since it is 2WD. I get about 20% loss on my AWD dyno and my numbers read at least 10% lower than Buscher's. If Buscher claims 20% loss on his 2wd, he's just dead wrong. On his it's more like 10%. 400 HP is possible on stock turbo sure, but it gets exponentially more expensive once you get to 300-310 whp. I went from 229 whp to 308 whp with my stage 2 package which is very inexpensive and easy install. That's 79 whp gain. Best way to go up from there is to get a bigger turbo on there and get yourself 400 whp. It's probably much cheaper than trying to go with cams, cam gears, intake manifold and will be much more fun to drive with even more potential for bigger numbers later on. I don't see cams as a very good cost effective mod on the stock turbo. It's good for some power but you can get over 400 whp easily with a decent turbo upgrade and stock cams and have the ability to get even more power with cams later on.
Interesting post but cams seem to be worth 25-30 WHP on the stock turbo and are worthwhile if one plans to go with a larger turbo later on anyway.Originally posted by Guru
BUscher's dyno reads super high since it is 2WD. I get about 20% loss on my AWD dyno and my numbers read at least 10% lower than Buscher's. If Buscher claims 20% loss on his 2wd, he's just dead wrong. On his it's more like 10%. 400 HP is possible on stock turbo sure, but it gets exponentially more expensive once you get to 300-310 whp. I went from 229 whp to 308 whp with my stage 2 package which is very inexpensive and easy install. That's 79 whp gain. Best way to go up from there is to get a bigger turbo on there and get yourself 400 whp. It's probably much cheaper than trying to go with cams, cam gears, intake manifold and will be much more fun to drive with even more potential for bigger numbers later on. I don't see cams as a very good cost effective mod on the stock turbo. It's good for some power but you can get over 400 whp easily with a decent turbo upgrade and stock cams and have the ability to get even more power with cams later on.
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Buschur's dyno gave near identical numbers to an AWD dynojet. Search his posts. It really doesen't matter though, he has nice numbers and a nice curve. I think everyone knows 369 is high for pump gas. Name another car with similar mod's on a different dyno on pump gas that came within 10Hp.
Lets not start a pissing contest here. Everyone's dyno reads differently. Dynos are tuning tools. Dynos are for measuring changes done to your car, not for measuring the size of your "member"