Dr. Evo, in the above posts the mitsumechanic states he replaces the lines with thicker tubing, I requested the dimensions he uses and he has yet to post. Find your last post from 2 am last night, and read through I have a lot of questions for you my friend. Please quickly tell me how you made your intake and tell me how to remove the stock air box easily. Thanks and again great improvement.
Stay safe,
Punisher

 

Hey Dr. Evo,

Judging from what mitsupwr said, the collapsing only occurs when the hoses get really hot and start to deform thus causing low boost. However, if you were still boosting up to 22 psi, I don't think you encountered this situation. But that's my thoughts only...I am for sure no expert on this...

Brent

 

And last but certainly not least.

Punisher,
Thanks for the compliments & thanks again for the clamp mod idea!

The air intake consists of a DSM (Eclipse/Talon) air filter adapter, 1 4" hose clamp and a A/C dirt/pollen filter from Home Depot.

The filter is made from the same foam as the HKS kit and most other foam filters. I only doubled the layer to aid in filtering out dirt, etc. more. I'd give you the part number on the filter, but I threw away the bag. I do know it comes in a sheet about 24x18 or something like that. So you will have extra left over to use. I plan on changing mine with every oil change. About 3000 miles.

I left the MAF sensor's honeycomb looking grill on there just incase the foam was accidently sucked in. So far no problems since I first installed it about to weeks ago. Keep in mind I'm pretty hard on my car, especially at the track.

Btw, the best 60' I got was a 1.827. I wish I got a 1.6xx, that would put me at a 12.8-12.7 atleast.

Hope this helps you all out. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask. I'll be home for a while.

P.S. I did the antenna mod using a Honda Element antenna and a kitchen sink rubber washer. I'm gonna post it in "Evo General" along with some before/after pics if anyone is interested.

 

I may still try a different hose to see if anything changes. Can't be more than a couple dollars, so if there is no gain, it won't be a big loss.

 

the dimensions are 2.8mm and its made by 3m. my dealer sponsors street legal drag races so i'm off to set up my display.

 

Would this be a clamped hose problem? What would this be doing to my car? (I rarely hit 19psi, by the way)

 

Tell me, you have to be psyched about gaining ~5mph-7mph in the quarter that is sick. I am still shocked at the improvement. I only wish you didn't take the restrictor out ( being selfish) so I could see the difference before/ after pill removal. Others have posted great results from tightening the clamp, so..... Oh well, as you can see I will probably remove the stock boost lines and swap them out (ie. pill less) to see how it feels. Damn- 7 mph, that is sick...
Pun

 

Thoe99, go uncrimp that hose, Ijust checked mine and it has a smooth bend in it (bone stock), so no, there should be no kink in your hose. Although I have no clue what in the hell this may do, it shoiuld not be kinked so twist it to unkink and see if it helps l8r.
Punisher

 

Yeah, I didn't believe it either. People were coming up to me and asking what I had done. I told them it's stock accept for the mods I've mentioned before.

They were like "yeah right". LOL.....Oh well, I can't complain.

I can't wait until May 1st. I'm pretty confident the car has a 1.7xx 60' in it. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Punisher, let me know what you run when you decide to go to the track. I'm curious as to the time you will get.

Btw, here's the link to my antenna mod I did today.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=75092

 

I hope to run a 13.2-13.4 (I have the sunroof). I may go get those lines this weekend and bring both to the track to see the difference with and without the pill in et's. I use to have a 1990 eclipse that ban 13.4 @104 (front wheel drive) in Texas, so I use to drag quite a bit for Alamoautosports in San Antonio when I lived in Austin, Texas. I am 31 now, and it has been 10 years since the track, but I have made over 100 passes in my eclipse gs turbo, so I am confident within 3-5 passes I can nail a good time. By the way, tell me your launch technique.

 

Oh, and where can I get the eclipse intake adapter you mentioned? How much and where to buy and wtf does it do??? Too many questions I know, but knowledge is power.
Pun

 

I bought mine at a small local speed shop. It wasn't even in a box or anything. Just went inside and told them what I need and he had it laying there.

The DSM air filter adapter is just a bolt on "bracket/adapter" that allows you to adapt an air filter on the MAF sensor.

I can't remember what it cost me though. Before I forget, you will also need 4 small bolts to bolt the adapter to the MAF sensor.

If you are interested, I could probably make another one and send it to you. It would probably be about $45-50.

IMHO the DIY air intake made more a difference than the clamp mod and restrictor delete.

Btw, PM sent!

 

Have have just read through this thread and what started as a good suggestion has gotten a little lost.
I am surprised some of the more expert members have not commented before this.
Please allow me to offer my 2 cents; take it for what it's worth ...

Punisher, Dr Evo - I notice by your member numbers that you are relatively new to the boards.
You should really do a search for info on the pill removal; you will find that this has all
been hashed out before and found to be an ill advised idea.

In short, taking the pill out causes the boost to fluccuate wildly. The stock solenoid can't
keep up; it's not meant to.

Better to spend about $40 for a MBC.

Also, about air filters and intakes ... please search again.
Messing with the stock airflow (even with a real intake from HKS or AEM) causes the MAF
readings to create a lean condition.

Both of these things will equate to more HP, and your car will feel stronger and faster,
but at the expensive of long term reliability.

If you boost over 20-21lbs on the stock motor you will be buying head gaskets...
And running lean ...will cost you even more.

Careful my Evo brothers, the best tuners on this board have warned of these things.
Listen to the voices of experience.

As for me, I boost over 20, but I replaced my head bolts with hardened studs.
I have an intake, but I had my car tuned to compensate.

Temper your enthusiasm with knowledge, and the experience of others that have gone
before you.

 

Thanks for the advice Mikesevo8. Did you try the tightening of the clamp, it works wonders. I can tell from your numbers that you are fairly new as well as you ar an evolving member also, cool! Well, I have reas alot in the past months on the board and now after dinner with my wife decided to leave the car bone stock. I have been into turbo cars since 1988, and am 31 years old so I am pretty familiar with our turbo cars as I had a 90 eclipse gs turbo; however your advice is well taken, I know not to be an idiot and modify until I can make an educated decision which is why I have been gathering info on these posts. Well, as I said I am leaving the car bone stock with only the intercooler clamps and bov clamps tightened. I am still shocked how much stronger my car is running, no lie. I am glad others found benefit from my posting of the clamp and are pulling hard to redline. By the way mikesevo8, I gave credit to finding this info about the clamp in another old post, so it was something I searched and found. I simply knew others have not tried this and it works awesome. Thanks for the advice, and I appreciate your input; I decided bone stock the car is great for me now. Maybe later I will go to pruven and do some real dyno mods ( the correct way of modding) but until then I am happy. Stay cool guys and I hope others tighten the bov clamp (lets bring this post back to it's origin so the message is not so convoluted, Mike is correct) and feel the upper rpm power.
Stay safe,
Punisher

 

My intention with my post was only to say that there are "safer" ways to do some things for
relatively little expense, considering the initial layout for the car.

Making sure all the clamps are tight is a great piece of advice.
In fact, check and tighten every clamp on the intake system.
Many have even replaced the stock clamps with T-bolt style for more clamping pressure.

BTW, my clamps are all tight as everything was checked when the intake was installed.
Never checked when it was stock. Maybe I missed out on some free HP.
Too late now. I have jumped in the mod pond with both feet.