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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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I don't know about all these superfast great times some of you write about. My stock (with K&N and 3" catback)evo ran 14.3xx @ 96.xxx on race gas with under 2 seconds 60' times. That was faster than my WRX with a full turbo back exhaust and K&N filter.

Some weeks ago some guys went to the same dragstrip (it was a cold night too!) and one of them has a Vishnu Stage I+ (HKS cams and gears), I think his best time was 12.9XX, the second fastest EVO has full Bushchur exhaust (no cat), HKS RS kit, and HKS 272 cams with Dynoflash (maybe a fuel pump as well) and he managed I think a 13.4XX. I don't know about the times from the other EVOs but it would be interesting to know. I'm going back tomorrow with a bunch of other EVO guys and we'll see what happens.
I guess my point is that 13.4 @ 102 does not sound like "something is wrong" to me

Here is the thread about that dragstrip event https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...e&pagenumber=3

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by silverEVO8
I don't know about all these superfast great times some of you write about. My stock (with K&N and 3" catback)evo ran 14.3xx @ 96.xxx on race gas with under 2 seconds 60' times. That was faster than my WRX with a full turbo back exhaust and K&N filter.

A couple of weeks ago some guys went to the same dragstrip and one of them has a Vishnu Stage I+ (HKS cams and gears), I think his best time was 12.9XX, the second fastest EVO has full Bushchur exhaust (no cat), HKS RS kit, and HKS 272 cams with Dynoflash (maybe a fuel pump as well) and he managed I think a 13.4XX. I don't know about the times from the other EVOs but it would be interesting to know. I'm going back tomorrow with a bunch of other EVO guys and we'll see what happens.
I guess my point is that 13.4 @ 102 does not sound like "something is wrong" to me
If you dumped around two grand on your car and didn't improve upon stock times, then something is wrong . Whether it's the operator or the machinery is still up in the air.

As for the 14.3 @ 96 on race gas: did you lean it out or raise the boost? If not, you're basically running even richer than this pig comes from and your time will suffer.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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i trapped 99mph stock and i considered my car a little underpowered from the factory

but you only trapped 96mph, now i think i have a normal output

i can't believe soo many otheres have super evos


im gonna mod alittle more now and count on the dynoflash

are you still using stock ecu? no tuning? tuning is wear you make the power.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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If you dumped around two grand on your car and didn't improve upon stock times, then something is wrong . Whether it's the operator or the machinery is still up in the air.

DXL007 did not say what he ran before his mods.... There is no comparison between before and after. He asks:
What does a stock evo run in the 1/4 mile?
I say it varies all over the place.... Some stock EVOs apparently can run sub 13 second 1/4 miles at well over 100 mph. Others (such as mine) will run mid 14's at well under 100 mph.....

Did you read the thread I posted? https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...e&pagenumber=3

Those EVOs with 12.9 @108 and the other one with 13.4 were heavily modified.... BTW, the one with 13.4 beat a STi by a tenth of a second or so.... Who knows why some guys have this tremendous times and high speeds, but it certainly is not the rule..... BTW, can all those drivers be bad??

Originally posted by EvolvedDSM
As for the 14.3 @ 96 on race gas: did you lean it out or raise the boost? If not, you're basically running even richer than this pig comes from and your time will suffer.
I said my car was basically stock except the K&N and the catback. I had no way to change the fuel or the boost. I don't know what the A/Fs or the boost was because I did not have gauges....
Oh yeah, my car is not stock any more I'll see what improvements I've gotten from my mods.

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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I ran a 13.2 at 105 with a works rally mail in flash p1 ...sorry dude
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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I ran a 13.2 at 105 with a works rally mail in flash p1 ...sorry dude
I suspect the faster times are recorded at or near sea level in cool conditions. The slow times from Georgia could be due to the 1100 ft altitude and generally hot and muggy weather we tend to have. Also, it's quite possible that different dragstrips are, well, "different" you know what I mean?

Times and trap speeds comparos from different parts of the country at different times of the year are pretty useless in my opinion. The only way to find out the base line and improvements (or lack thereof) is to run the same car or similar cars in the same track at the same time.

My $.02
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Bom's Evo
i trapped 99mph stock and i considered my car a little underpowered from the factory

but you only trapped 96mph, now i think i have a normal output

i can't believe soo many otheres have super evos


im gonna mod alittle more now and count on the dynoflash

are you still using stock ecu? no tuning? tuning is wear you make the power.
I no longer use the stock ecu.... My car is now very "tuneable" and my list of mods is fairly long..... I think it will be ready tomorrow when Boost Solutions finishes some final touches and some tuning... I'll see what results I get. Of course, it might require further tuning to get it optimized.... We'll see
Commerce GA is a very slow track. Other tracks within 100 or so miles are sometimes a full second faster for the same car.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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I have under $1000 in my car....

WORKS P2 reflash and 2.5" UR cat-back exhaust

I've posted a 13.0 @ 100.1 before. No prob!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Its not a MR thats why
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Even HOWARD agrees the MR would have ran 9 flat.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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I did a 12.9 last year with just a test pipe, K&N drop in, and boost controller set at 20 psi. Might be your launching technique among many other things....Just keep practicing and you'll improve!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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dude he pulled 1.9 60ft, his driving skills isn't the problem. Maybe its the altitude or maybe its the flash? I mean, is your mail in flash tuned for you to boost at 21psi? cuz if you got your flash without mentioning what boost you are running, then maybe your car is not running right. turning up your boost and having it tuned for a different boost level may have a great affect on your car. and are you sure you're boosting at 21psi, is that what your boost gauge is reading? or is it that you set your boost controller at 21psi and you're thinking its boosting at 21psi?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by silverEVO8


I suspect the faster times are recorded at or near sea level in cool conditions. The slow times from Georgia could be due to the 1100 ft altitude and generally hot and muggy weather we tend to have. Also, it's quite possible that different dragstrips are, well, "different" you know what I mean?

Times and trap speeds comparos from different parts of the country at different times of the year are pretty useless in my opinion. The only way to find out the base line and improvements (or lack thereof) is to run the same car or similar cars in the same track at the same time.

My $.02
Your first point: My 13.4s and 102 traps were run at 731 ft in hot and muggy Norwalk during last July's Shootout. I don't have solid numbers, but those in attendance can attest to this My bone stock results are similar to those widely published by many respectable magazines. That is what I'm comparing all other numbers to. While NRP is a very well-prepared track, I also ran similar numbers (13.5 @ 101) at a not-so-well-prepared track that sits about 200 feet higher. I think the AWD takes some of this out of the equation.

Your second point: I agree.

My final point: I would expect to be somewhere deep in the 12's and trapping around 110 with that kind of money spent/mods obtained. As Nebolic stated, the 60' time indicates that he can launch fairly well. As long as the rest of the drive is similar, there's no reason a properly running vehicle shouldn't produce said results. The variables involved are endless, however, and there's no way to get the answer without further info.
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