Power limitations
- Have the trans built
- Have the front diff built
- Have the rear diff built
Those powertrain vendors have many diff levels of mods that can make the PT very robust for heavy use / loads
Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
ok Sean. I guess it will be him breaking his if it happens to him. 
Meanwhile I have cars making 600ftlbs of torque without issues any real.
Building the trans doesn't make it stronger per se unless you put stronger parts in. Which isn't needed for first gear at an average level. And since first is integral on the input shaft, it only gets replaced when you go to a dog box.
You hurting first gear is a driver mod issue, plain and simple. Sorry dude.
Originally Posted by DeVIIIn
Is there any way to prevent those things? I may as well upgrade while I’m here so I don’t have to worry about it.
Maybe I worded it wrong. My concern isn’t BREAKING something in the head it’s more so about air flow. Someone mentioned porting it which we all know is expensive as hell. I don’t plan on launching it repeatedly but we all do it from time to time. I haven’t decided on a clutch yet but I know it’s going to have to be strong. I’m definitely on a budget though. I just don’t want the head to be suffocating the engine and cause problems. Safety for the entire car is primary concern, but of course we all know that something will break eventually for sure. Weak link tips are much appreciated.
My mistake was leaving oem engine mounts and only upgraded clutch. That's when I got severe vibrations during launches at the drag strip. I reengaged clutch each time to get rid of it, but it was already damaged in that first split second of launch. If you haven't already done so, upgrade your engine mounts (there are 4, one on each side) to avoid repeating into my mistake. What I'm saying is, you are losing buffer with your 2.3 upgrade and increase the chances of damaging your drivetrain.
As for someone else's evo making yada yada whp and having no problems handling the power, that is not your car, so it doesn't apply. Every evo has different problems, so assess your car for yourself since you know your car best. There is a local evo 8 here with over 100k miles on stock block. He modded his car with a 6466 turbo and puts down 630ish whp and runs 9s in 1/4. Will I tell anyone to do that? Absolutely not! He's playing with fire but he has the budget to build a new race engine. I'm giving you logical advice to minimize the chances of damaging your drivetrain.
Just so you know, everyone has gone through mistakes on their evos and will continue to go through mistakes. I am disappointed to see someone acting like they know everything and can't be wrong and then hint that you can't damage drivetrain on stock turbo. Especially right after saying stock turbo can hit 500 ft-lbs of torque.
Don't get me wrong, he has good advice most of the time.
Yes, he has problems with his evo too. He blows his motor on cool night from overboosting. Then tries to be English Racing and builds his fancy engine only to spin a bearing from oil contamination during break in. So no one is perfect, even if they act like it. They could have the most experience of everyone, but there's no excuse for giving people a false sense of security on someone else's car since we don't know the condition of your car (mileage, amount of abuse taken, fluid change intervals, use of correct fluids, etc).
Gather all the info and assess your plans because, in the end, it is your car and your dollar to fix. Good luck on finding what works for you.
Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; Aug 16, 2019 at 08:50 AM.
Well yes but there’s gotta be some other way to prevent it. Even if it’s temporarily limiting power or I’ve heard people talk about tcase braces.
Originally Posted by DeVIIIn
Well yes but there’s gotta be some other way to prevent it. Even if it’s temporarily limiting power or I’ve heard people talk about tcase braces.
Don't launch the car if you're worried about drivetrain life. Whether you have a fully built drive train or not, launching is hard on parts.
Otherwise, especially on the stock turbo, it's all fine.
Since the evo 8/9 head breathes pretty well from factory, I would just throw in a set of Billet R2's if you can. If you keep the oem fluid in the rear diff and transfer case (Diaqueen SAE90) and don't launch the car, they will not break.
I just want to add that if you insist on launching your car, you can do it more safely with one of these guys. It's cheating, but creates a lot more precision so that your anxiety before a launch doesn't bog you down. Better to slip more clutch than to break more gears/bearings/cases. There are clutches designed for launching over and over again, some are not. I would dial it in with a greater delay first, then reduce it to get desired slip:
https://www.realstreetperformance.co...-solenoid.html
https://www.realstreetperformance.co...-solenoid.html
Last edited by Pal215; Aug 15, 2019 at 02:09 PM.
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