Hi guys,
I wanted to gauge how much interest there is out there for a great possibility for vw dsg transmission adapted to 4g63 engines.
I have already successfully adapted the honda k series engine to dsg, and been selling those kits for a year now.
I have 3 transmission controller options, depending on variables.
electronic and mechanical side of things already proven to work on any engine.
I would like to know if anyone is interested in doing this swap.
dq250 or DQ500 awd transmission swap.

 

Looks interesting, but perhaps give a brief overview of the DQ### transmissions and the benefit they provide as well as what kind of torque they can handle when build. Also, link the information to the kits you already make for the Honda K Series stuff so people can check it out. I would definitely have an interest so please provide more information at your convenience.

 

The DQ500 transmission is a bulletproof option in stock form. 7 speed transmission as found in audi ttrs, ausi Rs3. It can handle up to 800nm when tuned correctly with standalone transmission controller.
beyond this power, you have to use Dodsons clutches and oil. This will get you over 1000hp easy.
wavetrac makes a lsd also. Peloquin is also in the process of doing a lsd .
for the honda k series adaption, there was some trimming of the engine block required because the honda block being so wide .
I dont see much trimming needed for the 4g63t.
you will need to use the vw transfer case also.
the other tranny option is the Dq250 AWD as found in Golf R. This will yield about 600nm before using clutches.
I have successfully adapted the fwd and awd versions of this dsg gearbox to honda k series. Below is some links to parts and install of both. As well as early working examples.
the controller options for this conversion as follows,
ecumaster black ecu. Will control engine 100% and gearbox as piggyback. This will allow OEM mechatronics to function as original , with all the factory limitations. This will require software reflash of the mechatronics to enable desired rpm limits and clutch pressures.
adrenaline tuning controller is a standalone only gearbox controller with all the same limitations as above.
HTG gearbox controller is a 100% fully standalone gearbox controller. Fully programmable for high hp.

 

Very interested I have thought about this I've owned a few dsg cars s3 mk7 and mk7.5 gti.

 

When you say "you will need to use the vw transfer case also.", is that the standard VW application that drives front 100% and uses clutches to feed the rear or a proper full time AWD system?

The former would ruin an evo's handling and what makes it great.

 

I was refering to just the front transfer case of the vw needs to be used.
can anyone give me the rear diff ratios please?
I also would like to know what's the difference between narrow block and wide block? I want to use the correct block for this swap.

 

I will say I totally appreciate the level of effort to create these kinds of swaps. But will also re-itterate the AWD system is a pretty big downgrade moving to a Haldex based system. Might as well just get a golf-R at that point.

But for gear ratios, I honestly have no clue what the actual diff ratio is. I can find them for older Evos and USDM vs JDM DSMs but for 8/9 Im not seeing it.

Lots of info here though. https://coordsport.com/wp-content/up...nformation.pdf

 

with dsg and vW transferbox we would need to use the VW haldex rear diff too... so no go..

 

3.307 iirc

 

The amount of effort and things to buy to make this feasible, I'd rather just go the sequential route and have something bulletproof that doesn't have to be opened up and modded to hold more power.

 

Have to agree with Austin. This would be a monumental undertaking with little gained over just going to a sequential. If anything, the ridiculous complexity would be a net loss IMO.

 

The rear diff ratios should be as follows...
E4 3.323
E5 3.307
E6 3.307
E7 3.307
E8 3.307
E9 3.125 (need to verify)

The EVO 8 vs EVO 9 block should not differ based on dimensions so not sure about the reference to wide vs narrow block.

 

Any thought on swapping an EVO X Getrag SST instead?

 

Just put the whole 4b11 in at that point. You would need to since there currently isn't stand alone ECU support for the SST, so you'll need the EvoX ECU to run it.

 

also, the SST is heavy, has a lot of rotational mass in the clutchpack and has a list of issues that need adressing..