240Z TwinTurbo I respect you and what you contribute to the community. However ,No idea how you were able to pull that off unless it gets floored in a single gear only . Or it had meth or alcohol injection that wasn't talked about
Anyone that tunes knows that high compression, pump gas and high boost doesn't end well. We are talking an old engine,not a modern DI engine with a badass combustion chamber. If it somehow worked for you, great. For others, Its not advisable.

Run 25-26psi on a modern turbo with 62 turbine wheel on these cars on 93 octane. Maybe . But Back to back passes on such a narrow window of safety just isn't something most should gamble with . A bad tank of 93 and its toasted. E85, race fuel and other octane injection is too cheap to not pursue.

CurseDSM- You didn't make 1200whp . Dynocom or whatever you used is adjustable and it takes alot of the right things to pull it off. You were also using a Chinese wheeled my buddy can build it cheaper turbo which isn't ideal either. If you had a dynojet graph, a 60-130 or some type of metric that showed the car making the power you stated we are all ears.

Lets see for one yes I did, second if you want to sling mud at my setup I have plenty of reasons to disagree with your tear down of your supposed engine with far less less of a setup then what I was running in an engine and making the numbers you did. So you want to play that game fine. My turbo was Borg s369 upgraded to a 72 mm turbo built by Forced Inductions. Last time I checked they aren't Chinese. Just cause I do not run a sequential trans like your car YOU never built does doesn't mean it did do what it says. I have video of what the car made on pump e85 and have said multi times i was not there when it did the 1208 being i was at work. Honestly I don't really give a **** what you or any other doubter thinks of my car I know what it made being I was there for most of it and when he finished the tune i was at work. I believe i have posted the video of a pull over 1000 whp in my build log. Here is a pull straight off the computer itself after one of the last pulls I saw. But yet I'm fudging #s some how. and for those who doubt my numbers my duty cycle when all said and done on the dyno was 98% duty cycle on 2600 id injectors. So do the math your self. I have nothing to hide i know what I did and I am more sus of your setup then you should be of mine. I don't have other people like trc building my stuff or RealStreet and or Rs garage tearing down my stulff to tell me how "good" it was. SO talk all the **** you want. So with that said anyone else who doubt my #'s ask any tuner what hp level you would be at with 98% duty cycle on 2600s and dual 525s and then come back to me and talk. Mind all of you I have a built trans, not a sequential and or dog box either..



Now why am I suspect of stuff on abacus had in his car watch this vid


Funny how this car was said to have made 1000whp, then 1100whp and I saw one with 1200 whp. No in his defense not that it couldn't happen once or twice but 17 years of abuse? Again not to say it hasn't happened

same car hmm more hp 1100

same car yet again hmm 1200 now?

Again not to say it hasn't happened or didn't happen kinda funny because i was on a journal bearing turbo and not a Pte turbo its not worth it. What interests me is watch the tear down video and what's actually in the engine. Anyone who knows their stuff will kinda feel the same way I do about this car. Attached is the pull of my car on the dyno I think second major pull making 1058whp. So yeah call me out everything is right there in front of you. No swapping no nothing pull and data. Dyno is irrelevant being its the dyno he uses. So like I said if anyone thinks your full of **** its me and I have for a long time just by the way your arrogance is since you BOUGHT not BUILT that trc car.

And if anyone hasn't seen my build log here it is so you can check it out for yourselves and make your own decision.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/pr...ld-thread.html

How old are you man? Again, where is the real world data of it putting that power down? 60-130 ? 130,140,150 in the 1/4 ? You mentioned Injector duty cycle. That is some data assuming it had enough fuel system and voltage. A single set of 2600's should make 1050-1100+whp.Depending on ethanol level and boost.

There is flywheel HP and WHP. We can get to that later.

Well known that people adjust dyno's for multiple reasons. Ego, videos,tech etc. Local guy makes 400-450hp on a 16g on pump gas.

My arrogance? I've been on this forum helping others for over a decade. I've turned a wrench on my other evo plenty of times. I worked for Real Street and had the opportunity to build that car. I did what I was good at and paid a high level tech to do what he was good at.

The bought not built comment. I've made decisions and worked hard my entire life and I'm in a decent place financially .The TRC car was offered to me knowing I would take care and race it. A super clean 29K mile fresh chassis with not one but three men putting money and time into it so that it was dialed. How many high hp evo's are headaches or go a handful of runs before being broken.
I bought it knowing the engine was tired but it still went 4 years and 150+ pulls for me before tearing it down. It was a good deal and can easily be resold given the cars reliability and history. If you can't understand or comprehend that I'm sorry.

That was the longest running 4g63 from 800-1100 hp. Its well documented,videos from more then a decade ago. 1000whp dynojet numbers,190mph in the half mile ,4.0 60-130 from first gear etc. One of the best cases for low compression for longevity.

Shows how far a forged eagle crank, Carrillo's, custom cp piston (with the wrong pin) went on low compression. The margin for error is much larger with low compression. One of the reasons early turbo engines were built that way for decades.

Your turbo choice. Never heard of that company before. Most small companies are in it to make a buck and corners can get cut. A Journal bearing won't live long at high boost.

It looks like your powerband was 2000rpm or so? I'll attach the graph of the silver evo making 1100whp on a 10569. Its got a 4000+rpm powerband. Xona,PTE,Garrett,HPT. Those are the front runners for turbo tech and power. Its not just about a peak number, the powerband makes the car fast and enjoyable. My car also has a 4500rpm power band .

When the silver car had a 9569 it came up so violently that the clutch would slip intially on the shift. Show me a chinesium wheel that does that?

I see it all the time where people buy an off label turbo with old tech and it makes a number but spools up late, then falls off early. You've got guys putting 57mm MHI turbo's on their cars and it doesn't come on until 5000rpm, falls off by 7500. Thats crap.


We both know a non dog style transmission will not deal with rpm or abuse well.

Flywheel horsepower is typically 10-20% more then wheel horsepower. A larger number on a title of a video will attract more attention then a smaller one.

Some history.

The graphite grey TRC evo had a 35R in 2007, then wore out a few PTE turbo's from 2008-2012, then went to a super 94. Then a super 99 in 2014/15. Wasn't driven easy and ran on high boost.

Silver TRC evo, Had a 9569 then later a 10569. One of the fastest street evo 60-130 times for the chassis. The horsepower went up as time went on with different turbo's and tuning. It also had 2600's a surge tank and a aeromotive brushless 3.5 nearing the end of the fuel system.

Not trying to start a war, just having a conversation. Its cool that you built your own car and its working well for you with that smaller turbo. Those are realistic expectations for life span and fun.

😂 you know how I achieved that because I post everything including my tune file, logs, setup, etc., which doesn’t include any type of supplementary injections🙄. Actually ran the setup up to 37psi and simply chose to back it down for safety. It was “drifto” www.mpfab.com that turned me on to the BWS362-sxe (6268. & 6668) as he was running his at about 36psi on 93 pump. I was skeptical, but the results are what they are and I learned a lot. Would never even consider a 35r when the s362 crushes it and is half the cost.

gonna refresh my bottom end later this year after my Hyundai intake manifold disaster, which I detailed. Gonna up my a/r to the 1.10 and their newest 362 sx-r (6468). Hopefully make 700whp+ on 93 pump in the 35-36 psi range.

Yeah I will say i got kinda rolled up because like you I worked hard for this. My dyno graph as shown as u commented on I had him tune it that way because I didn't want to break the t case or trans.

The turbo I have is a 115 lb per min turbo and it does **** and get. I choose to have the car that way with having a family and not wanting the power all the time. My turbo before I decided to stretch out the power and like I did looked a lot like yours did just slower spool being journal bearing.

Look I respect just about everything and everyone but I will say some times you come across that way to me. I am sure I come across the same way to you at times. .

I think you are correct with the way technology has come along. Forced inductions is a smaller company but they cater to the larger engine platforms. Plenty of v8 guys use them and they are a pretty good company for the most part. I decided to go smaller turbo this time So I can have a little more fun and I really didn't need the 72mm.

I think you said in the video when you went to the smaller turbo you made more power with less lag or something like that and it's true.

So yeah no war trying to be started and hopefully cooler heads prevail and I will be the first to admit I took things out of context. I do that a lot why I do not have social media lol.

All good.
240z- I need you to come down and sprinkle that magic on my cars. You've got some incredible results for pump gas . I would never attempt 25+ lbs on pump gas on these cars. 30psi would be pope blessing worthy. A large turbine housing definetly helps alot.

Curse DSM- The only discussion I've had on turbo's was going from the SS housing on the MHI red on my first evo. The second evo may get a 9569/10569/7169 one day. Currently my super 99 makes 400lb ft by 5000, full boogy by 5500-5800. 9200-9500 shift points.

Forced inductions is a small company and displacement makes a huge difference in turbo spool up and performance.

In the end, we are just car guys spinning on a rock thru space.

There is no magic involved, it is simply that running the larger turbine wheels with a high flowing a/r and exhaust allows you to run more boost and more timing (intercooler also important). If you choke the turbine side it will absolutely be more knock prone and boost limited. Debated doing a 72mm turbine, but I like the response of the 68 turbine and it makes plenty of power so gonna stick with the new SX-R 6468 with larger a/r for my next turbo swap and AGP thinks I can easily get 40whp from that change.
62 sxe flows 76lbs
64 sxr flows 95lbs
66 sxe flows 87lbs

Looking back at my 35r I was actually running 32-33psi (not 35psi) as that is all it would take before starting to knock. Simply going to the S362 (6268 & 6668) allowed for more boost and more timing. Below is the dynojet log of the 6668 vs 35r and the 6268 vs 6668 dynojet results.





Street log of 35r vs 6268...




Dynojet numbers of 35r vs 6268 as well as the dynojet logs

It just amazing that it lived well . Retarded timing can cause high EGT. But, you put the car thru its paces and it lived.
In my world we tuned 3.0-3.4 2JZ's with a PTE 62/66 or 64/66 and stopped at 650-700whp on pump gas. Thats a much larger engine with the same cylinder head tech from the 90's. That was a send it down the road tune that would live awhile.

Not sure about the retarded timing comment as this is typical pump gas timing for a IX from what I've seen although some have commented the peak torque timing is a bit higher than expected. I have not experienced this type of high boost capability on any of my other 3 turbo setups and very seldom see knock. My old L28 powered 240z with twin 16g's was running about 19-20psi max on 93 pump. My RB26 powered 260Z runs about 19psi on 93 pump, tuned by the previous owner, so I have not personally pushed more than that since I have been focused on making personal changes to the vehicle. Purchased an EMU Black for the 260Z to replace the old Electromotive Tech GT, so I'll see how much boost it can push on 93 pump safely, but not thinking more than low 20's. My R35 with a pair of GTX3071r's runs about 23psi max on pump (750whp) although I typically run around at 19psi daily driving due to knock inconsistencies. Below is my dyno results and dyno log for the GTR and the car trapped 141.6 at ZMax. Can't really explain why it is so much different than my other turbo setups, in terms of boost capabilities, but it is what it is.