View Poll Results: Do the gears grind in your Evo?
Evo doesn't grind



225
27.54%
Grinds - 1st to 2nd



253
30.97%
Grinds - 2nd to 3rd



189
23.13%
Grinds - 3rd to 4th



110
13.46%
Grinds - 4th to 5th



214
26.19%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 817. You may not vote on this poll
Mitsubishi, synchros and us
A few thousand miles after my new clutch was installed I noticed a grind going into 5th at higher rpm - it found it's way down the rev range and was happening shifting into 5th at as low as 60MPH. Finding a gear even at a stop seemed a bit more difficult.
I adjusted my clutch this weekend. I find that finding a gear at a stop is easier. However, the grind into 5th remains.
I'll be going into the shop with P0300 codes, tranny vibration and this grind on my list in the somewhat near future. I'll keep folks advised.
I adjusted my clutch this weekend. I find that finding a gear at a stop is easier. However, the grind into 5th remains.
I'll be going into the shop with P0300 codes, tranny vibration and this grind on my list in the somewhat near future. I'll keep folks advised.
Mine is grinding into 2nd if I shift hard and finding reverse is hard when I first start the car. I have a fidanza flywheel and ACT clutch. YOu think mitsu would void the warranty due to the clutch? I expect them to. Any experience?
Originally Posted by Taimur
Clutch should not void the warranty.
Mitsu is warrantying these cars as they sit STOCK with all STOCK parts on it. If you want to add aftermarket parts, then you have to accept the responsibility that comes with them. If you can find a dealership that will "look the other way" when you bring in a modified car for warranty work, then more power to you.
Don't expect them to cover your car when you change things from the stock characteristics, though.
I voted no, but it did grind one time. Then again, I was trying to jam that sucker into first gear during an autocross, I was trying to get it in gear really fast, cost me like a whole 1-2 seconds to put it back into gear. That was the only time tho, it never did it again during any other autocrosses under similar situations.
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Mitsu is warrantying these cars as they sit STOCK with all STOCK parts on it. If you want to add aftermarket parts, then you have to accept the responsibility that comes with them. If you can find a dealership that will "look the other way" when you bring in a modified car for warranty work, then more power to you.
Don't expect them to cover your car when you change things from the stock characteristics, though.
Don't expect them to cover your car when you change things from the stock characteristics, though.
Yes, they warrant stock parts and equipment. But no, your car does not have to stay stock for them to warrant it. Should any stock equipment fail or become damaged (negligence excluded), the burden of proof lies on the dealer to prove that what you added (or removed) caused the STOCK ONLY part to fail. They will not warrant/replace your aftermarket part.
Do not let the dealer, or anyone else for that matter, tell you differently. Yes, the evaluation is dependent upon the service manager and/or district rep. But, they do have to prove their claim.
Please note, this is not merely conjecture. This is factual information from my personal previous dealings with dealer service departments and warranty work.
For example, my 99 Eclipse was plumbed for nitrous. I had a note on my file to use limiting powertrain warranty. It was not negated...nor could they actually deny the other claims I went in their with. I had other electrical problems and such that were fully covered and repaired.
Another case and point, my Evo is currently at the dealer getting the tranny repaired, under warranty, with all my aftermarket parts installed. This includes my catback, HKS filter, lowering springs, turbo timer, boost gauge, etc, etc.
Why? because the failure is due to Mitsubishi parts...nothing that I added caused this....and that's what a warranty is for.
please see this thread if you've had the 5th gear problem come back after the dealer fixed it:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=115380
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=115380
First to second grind if shifted quickly above 5k, if over 6200 it will block the shift, second to third light grind (can feel 3~5 teeth) is shifted slowly.
Took it in and complained, got it back smelling like clutch with bad chatter and they said they couldn't duplicate the complaint. They created another complaint fv<king a$$holes.
Took it in and complained, got it back smelling like clutch with bad chatter and they said they couldn't duplicate the complaint. They created another complaint fv<king a$$holes.
Originally Posted by BMan
First to second grind if shifted quickly above 5k, if over 6200 it will block the shift, second to third light grind (can feel 3~5 teeth) is shifted slowly.
Took it in and complained, got it back smelling like clutch with bad chatter and they said they couldn't duplicate the complaint. They created another complaint fv<king a$$holes.
Took it in and complained, got it back smelling like clutch with bad chatter and they said they couldn't duplicate the complaint. They created another complaint fv<king a$$holes.
Looks like they turned your complaint into a free ticket on the 'Evo Express'
For all those complaining about a difficult 1-2 shift ... 2nd gear is a triple synchro - that is why it is a beotch to shift into it quickly at high rpms (just like trying to quickly downshift into 1st gear is).
FWIW, my car is currently at 22K miles and is starting to grind going into 5th when I shift at high rpms (read: 3rd to 5th shift at 6K+ or 4th to 5th shift at anything above ~4500). I'll probably take it in and have it looked at within the next month or so. It doesn' really bother me too much right now, since I don't really push the car during winter (crappier tires, cold air generating too much boost, etc.).
A shepherd rebuild is very likely within the next year or so. Hopefully they'll be able to change the gear ratios as well .... I really don't like how 4th and 5th are geared. IMO both should be higher.
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FWIW, my car is currently at 22K miles and is starting to grind going into 5th when I shift at high rpms (read: 3rd to 5th shift at 6K+ or 4th to 5th shift at anything above ~4500). I'll probably take it in and have it looked at within the next month or so. It doesn' really bother me too much right now, since I don't really push the car during winter (crappier tires, cold air generating too much boost, etc.).
A shepherd rebuild is very likely within the next year or so. Hopefully they'll be able to change the gear ratios as well .... I really don't like how 4th and 5th are geared. IMO both should be higher.
l8r)
Last edited by Ludikraut; Dec 30, 2004 at 10:01 AM.
G 20..You may well have to adjust an ACT clutch.. use the rod at the pedal and set it to factory spec.s. Mine was perfect when I got it back for my dealer. They put it in at no labor charge when I had the 5th syncro TSB work done. Now the only remaining flaw is the nasty temeramental 1st gear syncro but I can live with that as I seldom need to down shift that far. Too bad the transmissions do not work like Mitsu engines do.. they are the best I have ever owned (Honda, Plymouth, Chevy, Ford, BMW, and "lol" Austin).
Frank D An after market clutch has to meet or exceed manufacturer spec.s. It is a consumable. The stock clutch must hold the stock engines power and on unmodified cars a stronger clutch will only need to do the same. If you break a gear by abuse it will not be covered. The 5th gear synchros are a factory defect and another issue all together.
Frank D An after market clutch has to meet or exceed manufacturer spec.s. It is a consumable. The stock clutch must hold the stock engines power and on unmodified cars a stronger clutch will only need to do the same. If you break a gear by abuse it will not be covered. The 5th gear synchros are a factory defect and another issue all together.
Last edited by WildRice; Dec 30, 2004 at 10:57 AM.
Mine is grinding second to third, only have 600 miles on the car. Took it in to dealer once already, they said they cannot duplicate problem. I'll have to see if it goes away; if not, I will take it in again because there is a technical bulletin regarding second to third synchro and fourth to fifth synchro on 03/04 GSRs.


