UPDATED Wing ticket
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Hi, this is my first post here.
This is link to Wisconsin's vehicle and traffic laws: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/lawbook.htm
If dryad001 hasn't already, maybe he could post exactly which statute he was charged with? It should be noted on his ticket.
This is link to Wisconsin's vehicle and traffic laws: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/lawbook.htm
If dryad001 hasn't already, maybe he could post exactly which statute he was charged with? It should be noted on his ticket.
Originally Posted by bedabi
Hi, this is my first post here.
This is link to Wisconsin's vehicle and traffic laws: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/lawbook.htm
If dryad001 hasn't already, maybe he could post exactly which statute he was charged with? It should be noted on his ticket.
This is link to Wisconsin's vehicle and traffic laws: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/lawbook.htm
If dryad001 hasn't already, maybe he could post exactly which statute he was charged with? It should be noted on his ticket.
Regardless we've all got good opinion, but, I still think we need the cited guy to post what law he was cited against. It might clear up a lot.
jcnel.
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If you losse on the appeals, goto the dealer where you bought it from sue there **** for selling you illegal car. And bring it all the way to corporate MMNA.
This ticket is rediculous, remember that muscle car that came stock with a park bench wing ? I bet if you were driving that instead of the EVo he'll prolly give you a thumbs-up instead of a ticket.
Nvm I see on that picture the wing is HIGHER than the roof.
This ticket is rediculous, remember that muscle car that came stock with a park bench wing ? I bet if you were driving that instead of the EVo he'll prolly give you a thumbs-up instead of a ticket.
Nvm I see on that picture the wing is HIGHER than the roof.
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ylen, states can say some stuff is legal even if the federal government says it is illegal. take for example medicinal pot. legal in california, illegal everywhere else according to the federal government. the state overrode the federal law in that case.
Here's a more recent story: http://www.news10.net/storyfull.asp?id=8181
The owner of a medical marijuana dispensary in Roseville has shut down his business in the aftermath of a federal raid earlier this month.
Federal drug agents raided Marino's dispensary and his Newcastle garden on September 3. Nobody was arrested, but the store was temporarily closed.
In talking to his lawyer, Marino discovered that if prosecuted in federal court, he could potentially face multiple life prison terms. "Nobody wanted to go to prison," said Marino. "I didn't want any of my employees to go to prison. I don't want to go to prison myself trying to take care of sick people."
Marino was operating his business under a law voters passed in 1996 that allows for the medicinal use of marijuana. It conflicts with federal laws that make all uses of marijuana illegal. The controversy grew more complex after the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals handed down two rulings that federal authorities do not have the power to go after noncommercial medical marijuana operations within the state of California. The U.S. Department of Justice is appealing those rulings to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Marino, who uses marijuana to treat chronic pain following a car accident, says there are about 100 other medical marijuana dispensaries in the state where patients can have their prescriptions filled.
Federal drug agents raided Marino's dispensary and his Newcastle garden on September 3. Nobody was arrested, but the store was temporarily closed.
In talking to his lawyer, Marino discovered that if prosecuted in federal court, he could potentially face multiple life prison terms. "Nobody wanted to go to prison," said Marino. "I didn't want any of my employees to go to prison. I don't want to go to prison myself trying to take care of sick people."
Marino was operating his business under a law voters passed in 1996 that allows for the medicinal use of marijuana. It conflicts with federal laws that make all uses of marijuana illegal. The controversy grew more complex after the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals handed down two rulings that federal authorities do not have the power to go after noncommercial medical marijuana operations within the state of California. The U.S. Department of Justice is appealing those rulings to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Marino, who uses marijuana to treat chronic pain following a car accident, says there are about 100 other medical marijuana dispensaries in the state where patients can have their prescriptions filled.
Also, someone mentioned demanding a jury trial. An appeals process doesn't involve a jury. Plus, I seriously doubt he's even entitled to a jury trial at all. It all depends on the state of course, but generaly speaking, you're only entitled to a trial for criminal charges. I highly doubt a faulty equipment citation qualifies as a criminal charge. Even in WI.
The only REAL advice I can give is to find a lawyer with real experience in dealing with the specific courts you'll be in. Once you step foot into court, it's all a crap shoot. So at least you've got to be familiar with the dealer's tricks.
Good luck.
See, I've been skulking around here for a while. 
I'm going to run around New Berlin, WI on purpose and see if those jackasses pull me over for "impaired rearwards sight" or whatever the fine was for. **** them. I am going to show them THE OWNERS manual and have them read the part about "adjusting the WING on the trunk" in section 3-45 AND show them the pictures of the car on page 7-38 with the HUGE wing lmao........
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This thread will be closed for cleanup. The flaming comments will be removed. If you don't agree with another member's post ..... fine. State you disagree and why and leave out the stupid personal insults. This is a very emotional topic and one that can affect all Evo owners. Precedent trumps common sense in the legal community and I hope the owner pursues a remedy.
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Originally Posted by plokivos
ok, everyone is saying to sue the judge, police, mitsubishi, and everyone else.
Now, who's rich enough here and believe that this is such a BS that they're be willing to get their lawyer on this case?
I know one person who could, but I don't know if he wants to.
I'm thinking that there is something more to this than what the guy is saying however when you get a ticketed for getting a dealer option wing then you must protest to the manufacturer or someone who sold you that wing.
Samething as if a toy falls apart and a kid swallows it and dies, you'll be suing the hell out of the toy company. Because death was cause of the product manufactured by the toy company.
I would start a petition with pictures to show that judge and appeal it. Talk to people with SEMA and I'm sure they'll be glad to buy you a lawyer.
Now, who's rich enough here and believe that this is such a BS that they're be willing to get their lawyer on this case?
I know one person who could, but I don't know if he wants to.
I'm thinking that there is something more to this than what the guy is saying however when you get a ticketed for getting a dealer option wing then you must protest to the manufacturer or someone who sold you that wing.
Samething as if a toy falls apart and a kid swallows it and dies, you'll be suing the hell out of the toy company. Because death was cause of the product manufactured by the toy company.
I would start a petition with pictures to show that judge and appeal it. Talk to people with SEMA and I'm sure they'll be glad to buy you a lawyer.
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there's also laws about OEM equipment, and the evo's wing is OEM... not a dealer-aftermarket option..... guess people don't realize that...
well... if the locals could get away with this, we might as well just eliminate the need for congress and the house... hell... save me some time and not bother voting for president this time since Joe Blowjawb in the town of hessianville could decide on what should happen and what's right and whats not anyways...
well... if the locals could get away with this, we might as well just eliminate the need for congress and the house... hell... save me some time and not bother voting for president this time since Joe Blowjawb in the town of hessianville could decide on what should happen and what's right and whats not anyways...
Originally Posted by ylen13
you and everyone else except one poster seem to ignore that having seal of dot don't mean that car can be sold in the state. All it means that dot approved it and it can be sold in usa. State also have to certifie the car. Also without him poster the civil code under which he was was ticketed we have no idea what law legislators passed.
edit:most people don't read the full contract they just read the numbers of how much the car will cost, the apr and how much they will be paying for the car a month
edit:most people don't read the full contract they just read the numbers of how much the car will cost, the apr and how much they will be paying for the car a month
I feel that the owner of this thread kinda up and left. Perhaps he's a little busy right now, but again, I still feel, regardless of what can be done, that if he could post the WI statute number he was cited against, that would help a lot of 'well-intentioned' people perhaps offer some helpful advice here.
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Originally Posted by jcnel_evo8
I feel that the owner of this thread kinda up and left. Perhaps he's a little busy right now, but again, I still feel, regardless of what can be done, that if he could post the WI statute number he was cited against, that would help a lot of 'well-intentioned' people perhaps offer some helpful advice here.
Section 346.88 (3)(c) "No person shall drive any vehicle upon a highway so loaded or with any object so placed or suspended in or upon the vehicle so as to obstruct the driver's clear vision through the rear window unless such vehicle is equipped with an outside rear view mirror meeting the requirements of 347.40."
Again, the link to the relevant statutes are here:
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/Statutes/Stat0346.pdf
