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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Why is it so difficult??? If you are afraid that the dealer will not warranty your car if something is indeed defective, then don't mod it. The fact is, if you did mod it, the dealer will most likely try to blame it on your parts. If you are scared, don't do it. If you do, I will just have to suggest that if something does break or is defective and the dealer blames it on your mod part, just suck it up and pay it but don't complain about the dealer not covering something after you mod it.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Man you come on here posting this? You don't think they can find out what mods you have when you post it publically on a message board?

Priceless. All I got to say is don't start crying when they find this information out when it's obviously your own fault. EVOTEXAS is spot on with his points he made.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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I dont know why all you guys say the evo has no warranty. I put a intake and catback on my car, then took it in for tranny problems. They fixed everything under warranty. Mitsu itself is not my favorite company, given their history with the U.S. , however the Evo is a Great car at a reasonable price and they stand behind it in my experience. Afterall isnt everyone's opinion based on their own experience?

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Someone posted that ECU reflashes on 05's were detectable. Could a dealership tech, or one of "our" platinum or gold vendors verify this?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gregb
Someone posted that ECU reflashes on 05's were detectable. Could a dealership tech, or one of "our" platinum or gold vendors verify this?
I'm not sure that the amount of money a company pays to advertise here dictates knowledge.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Thumbs up Thanks for Input

Hey all thanks for giving comments those of you who decided to make this into a post that its not u suck .... but hey its a forum what can i expect......

I think i will go make friends with Mgr of my dealer and see what he has to say .... seems like the only way to go.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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I am going to claim warranty if I blow my motor. Mitsu rep: "that turbo doesn't look stock and neither do all those pipes." Nonsense it's your guy's incompetence that caused this replce it now! I mod my car up the *** and fully expect to pay if something goes. Just make sure you mod your car properly and don't go to the track every weekend Or make friends with the dealer and then you can scam mitsubishi out of money, but that's all in your personal ethics so to each their own I guess.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Richard EVO's statement about warranty coverage is right. They have to prove what you did caused the problem. As mentioned earlier, this topic has been through the wringer. See my post on another warranty thread here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=187

My dealer has been great with my Evo. Like mentioned previously, every dealer is different. I'm not all for myself, just because I've had problems in the past. But, I wouldn't be so quick to saw f- them. Some of these guys must have had a really bad experience.

Remember, people at the dealer make all the difference. It's like night and day at my local dealer. The way it used to be really sucked and now that they have a new service team (and manager) they're really helpful and supportive. I'm not just saying this because they covered all my problems either. I had to foot a hefty portion of the bill for a harness replacement that may/may not have been my fault. It was indeterminate, so they paid for some and so did I. If you don't see eye to eye with your current dealer, go to another one.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Take your chances and let the karma come back around.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportPePe
Man you come on here posting this? You don't think they can find out what mods you have when you post it publically on a message board?

Priceless. All I got to say is don't start crying when they find this information out when it's obviously your own fault. EVOTEXAS is spot on with his points he made.
How does Mitsu NA know who you are, just because you post here??? All I know about you is that your screen name is ImportPePe. You could be just some Italian dick for all Mitsu knows. LOL
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard EVO
How does Mitsu NA know who you are, just because you post here??? All I know about you is that your screen name is ImportPePe. You could be just some Italian dick for all Mitsu knows. LOL
It's happened many times on here before. They have their ways. LOL.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BeefyEvo
ok heres the deal, i wanna mod ... dont we all. lets say I get a Mbc and go 21lbs...vroom vroom..... if the **** hits the fan and something breaks of course im going to take off the mbc go back to stock ... go to mitsu and be like fix me !!! .... any way down to business .... will they know ?! is there anything in the ECu that can record stuff like boost lvls.... RPM history .. overreving stuff they dont like you to do ... Just like to see where im at before they go "hey nice 21lbs and a 9k overrev VOID!!!! hahahaha" id hate to have to slap a service mgr =/
They could always find out. If that makes you nervous, well maybe you should either consider buying a backup motor for when the "grenade fairy" pays you a visit or, just don't mod.

Really, what you need to do is educate yourself on the rights afforded to you by the Magnuson-Moss Act. Mitsubishi cannot void your entire vehicle warranty because you installed a manual boost controller. They might void portions of the warranty pertaining to the drivetrain, but your power windows or other unrelated systems/parts would be covered.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm

If you want to race or beat on your car and try to have Mitsubishi cover it, go ahead, give it a shot. If Mitsubishi covers the repair, great for you! But as others have said, pulling parts off the car so that it appears stock in order to get warranty covereage is fraud and is illegal. Plain & simple. It's not a "victimless" crime like smoking pot. You're screwing someone over and ultimately the rest of us that like to drive these cars.

How do you feel about people who claim total disability, collect an insurance check and then go back to work on the side? Is that wrong? People who make false warranty claims are sent to the same reserved section of hell. :P
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by propellerhead
They could always find out. If that makes you nervous, well maybe you should either consider buying a backup motor for when the "grenade fairy" pays you a visit or, just don't mod.
"Grenade fairy"...
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BeefyEvo
ok heres the deal, i wanna mod ... dont we all. lets say I get a Mbc and go 21lbs...vroom vroom..... if the **** hits the fan and something breaks of course im going to take off the mbc go back to stock ... go to mitsu and be like fix me !!! .... any way down to business .... will they know ?! is there anything in the ECu that can record stuff like boost lvls.... RPM history .. overreving stuff they dont like you to do ... Just like to see where im at before they go "hey nice 21lbs and a 9k overrev VOID!!!! hahahaha" id hate to have to slap a service mgr =/
All OBD-II compliant cars save freeze frames in the event that a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is thrown. These freeze frames contain a bunch of useful (read "damning") sensor information such as MAF and RPM values. A catastrophic engine failure will almost certainly throw one code or another, so that useful info will probably be there. However I've never heard of this actually be used against someone.

Personally, I wouldn't trust sensor data in the event that my engine 'blew up'.

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by donour
All OBD-II compliant cars save freeze frames in the event that a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is thrown. These freeze frames contain a bunch of useful (read "damning") sensor information such as MAF and RPM values. A catastrophic engine failure will almost certainly throw one code or another, so that useful info will probably be there. However I've never heard of this actually be used against someone.

Personally, I wouldn't trust sensor data in the event that my engine 'blew up'.

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Yep. In fact this freeze frame data was used against M3 owners when their motors were failing due to spun bearings. Only I think with the BMW ECU it records more than snapshots, it records many seconds of data leading up to the failure. In the cse of the M3, these owners swore up and down that they were letting the SMG computer do the shifting. Despite this BMW claimed that the motors were overreved even though it should be impossible to do. The ECU freeze frame data was called into question. I'm not sure if the data ended up being faulty or if the SMG ECU was failing to shift soon enough.

Anything you do can and will be held against you if Mitsubishi can dredge it up.
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