car and driver also feels the need to burn the tires to achieve a faster accelleration? dont believe me? watch c&d television. they cant drive worth ****.

 

I don't think it is crack, I think it is old age that is doing C&D in!

 

I remember when it was Motor Trend TV. They left a pile of rubber Same host but didn't look like same drivers? I think the drivers are different everytime? It was Vantune or something for motortrend.

 

I swear this place sounds like the subaru forum when the wrx arrived

Why is everyone so worried about 1/4mile times, In a AWD car
if your trapping mph in the 102 range your talking 13.0 times, but
the evo is a on+off car from the start because of it's larger turbo.

Slipping the clutch on the launch will get you a better 60ft period.

And if C&D dropped the clutch at 6000rpm then well there dumber than i thought, but i don't read mags much so take that with a grain of salt. later

 

if it has a bmw and honda name oin it c&d will try to get the best times and if it is mitsubishi, will give it some handicap that's why you get those numbers. they want to baby the clutch with the mitsu and squeeze whatever hp from the bmw to get good numbers. i hope i am mistaken?

 

Following up on what you said... here is a quote fromt the C&D online article about the EVO 6.

Are these guys complete morons????

The more traction, the better!!!!! I think C&D proved that they know nothing about driving an AWD car!

 

It's been my understanding that the goal on launch wasn't to spin the tires, but, to push the launch to the point that it was just enough to ALMOST break traction, and then launch... otherwise, while you go across the line a bit while the wheels are still spinning, the clock is ticking and you're going NO WHERE. Dumbasses. From what they wrote right there, it seems almost like they're driving like most of the 16 yo Honda boyz around here that do redline clutch dumps when launching.

 

This is the only data that we can brag around at the time!

True, if you live in the FWD or RWD world! So far off for the AWD cars!

So, what do you read then, so you can so easily call them dumb?? Did you ever even try to launch an AWD with 300 or so HP to make such a definitions? I wonder who looks dumb right now?


Fedja

 

If you had been driving (or should I say drag racing AWD cars) a bit longer, than you would know of the cases when too much traction can be a problem for certain cars with certain amount of power and tuning. The thing is that if your car doesn't have enough of the timing advance below the 4000 RPMs, every single attempt to launch the car hard would result in bogging the car. Now if you don't have such a good traction, maybe you can brake those wheels loose and your car will not bog down. By getting some extra traction, you having harder time to spin the wheels and once over the line, you can't spin them any more and you bog the launch! That is the moment when you have too much traction for the condition of your car!

Another thing that is so surprising here is that people are so easy to call anyone else names, without any second thoughts on who really should be call that...so sad...


Fedja

 

1/4 mile times...
BLAH BLAH BLAH
If you are a stoplight cowboy pleeeeeeeeeease do not buy an evolution!!!!!!!!!! Go buy a mustang or camaro!!!
Demand is bigger than supply, I hope no EVO's are wasted on stoplight cowboys.

 

Yay, finally someone with some sense! Thanks Skibum!

 

Here Here! I agree...Not to mention a magazine has never had good numbers. I don't care who they are.

As for those who posted about the 03 Cobra's -- The problem starts with the Blue Oval. Wake up from your dreams. If I put a supercharger on an LS-1 I would expect it to make 500hp too.

 

I retract my "dumbasses" comment, but, I've read other stuff, and it seems that C&D likes to do the burnouts for their 1/4 times, and sorry, that's just not smart.

 

I already posted this in another thread, but since these two are so similar, it applies to this thread also so don't rape me for double posting:

I have two points to make.... first, look at yourselves!!!! If you are buying this car to drag race, you are buying the wrong car, go fallow Chicago mike to your nearest mustang dealer and buy the same car as every other Dumbass American who doesn’t have a clue what racing is all about. This car is not all about who can drive a 1/4 mile the fastest, its about who can find that road in the mountains and lay down some rubber around the bends. It is also about being an individual and driving something rare and different that the 100 mustangs you see when you step of the curb to cross the street.

Second, as far as the arguments about what magazine has what grandma driving what speed is all horse ****, if you have nothing better to do than argue about someone else’s day at the track that you weren't even there to see then you need to turn off your computer right now, and get the hell out of your house or office and take a few deep breaths. My two cents

:Getting your ***** re-attatched:

-Power on

 

I've been racing AWD for several years... I know all about the "different" conditions that pertain to "different" level of AWD cars.

I have an ACT 2600 in my DSM and know all about the bog or spin issues... if the track is preped and there is alot of traction then ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is launch the car HIGHER!!! Which is BETTER.

On a stock car, such as the one in question, if the track is prepped and the car is bogging, launch the SOB higher and higher until you don't bog/launch well. Case closed (assuming the tranny/clutch will hold!)