So I pulled up to a Mitsu dealer with my new 3 series..
Man...wasting a dealer's time is bad enough but what's worst is that you put miles on an evo that someone is going to buy...miles can sometime determine whether a ride gets sold or not. I know miles mattered to9 me...if i'm buying a new car...i want the lowest miles.
Personally, being 20, having owned 8 cars, I know how you feel. I walked into a Nissan Dealer looking at a 350Z for my 17 year old sister (who is in pharmacy school at a private 4 year university and makes on average $150 a nite as a waitress at the bar she works at) and not a single salesman would talk to us. We were in her 04 Mustang 6 cylinder. Most people thing I am a joke when I walk up to a dealer. I went to buy an SS Camaro, and ask the dealer what their cash price was, they said they couldn't come off the sticker price any (prob thought I was bull****ting) so I went across the street and bought my 99 Cobra cash that day.
This is no different than had someone done the test drive, filled out the paper work, and couldn't get their credit approved. They would have waisted just as much, maybe even more time. Car dealers know what they have to go through. So what if he did use the 3 Series to get a test drive. Divine retribution for all the other people the guy has turned downed based on dress/vehicle.
I personally went to the Subaru dealer in town, ask the guy to run some numbers BEFORE I went for a test drive. He got done, and said lets drive it, I told him it was ok, I wouldn't waist his time. He insisted I drive the 06 STi. I did, and it was awesome.
The next day I went to the Mistu dealer, they had a white 06 MR. They said there is no test driving the Evo's period. I said fine, no need to buy from you. Damn if I'm going to pay $36,000 for a car I can't drive first. To me, if your credit qualifies, and you have the cash to throw a down payment down, you should be able to drive the machine.
So to the original poster, you may have waisted the seller's time, but I am sure he has dicked around many others in the process of them trying to buy a new car.
The best question, and I didn't read the whole thread, is how did you drive the Evo? Were you hard on it, or just drive it?
This is no different than had someone done the test drive, filled out the paper work, and couldn't get their credit approved. They would have waisted just as much, maybe even more time. Car dealers know what they have to go through. So what if he did use the 3 Series to get a test drive. Divine retribution for all the other people the guy has turned downed based on dress/vehicle.
I personally went to the Subaru dealer in town, ask the guy to run some numbers BEFORE I went for a test drive. He got done, and said lets drive it, I told him it was ok, I wouldn't waist his time. He insisted I drive the 06 STi. I did, and it was awesome.
The next day I went to the Mistu dealer, they had a white 06 MR. They said there is no test driving the Evo's period. I said fine, no need to buy from you. Damn if I'm going to pay $36,000 for a car I can't drive first. To me, if your credit qualifies, and you have the cash to throw a down payment down, you should be able to drive the machine.
So to the original poster, you may have waisted the seller's time, but I am sure he has dicked around many others in the process of them trying to buy a new car.
The best question, and I didn't read the whole thread, is how did you drive the Evo? Were you hard on it, or just drive it?
Last edited by Crackerballer; Dec 13, 2005 at 09:41 PM.
i think mitsu dealerships should have a designated test vehicle for the evo. i know acura does this and i think it might be a good idea for mitsu to do it.
Last edited by amprowler; Dec 13, 2005 at 09:55 PM.
Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
I would make the argument that is has nothing to do with age, but more to do with courtesy and respect for property. Noone, and I mean even a 98 yr. old noone, has the right to open a car door at a dealership and pop the hood without a salesman saying "sure, go right ahead!"
Originally Posted by bobaab
So my friend let me borrow his new 325 for today, because I was looking at apartments on campus and needed to pick up some friends...anyways, after all that was done, it was some free time with the car...me and my roommate decided to go to the mall when I saw a Mitsu dealer on the way...I was like "well why not have a look at an Evo".
So as I pulled up to the dealer, my roommate suggested to trick the dealership into thinking I was looking for a new car. This sounded fun, and I wanted to see how well the sales team would treat me, so I played along. I pulled up to the dealer pretty arrogantly; I nearly parked the 325 across 3 parking spaces
Then I parked nicely...
We walked inside, the salesman greeted me, not from his desk, but actually stood up and came to greet me. Good. I told them my dad bought my new 3 series without my consent, and was looking to buy a different car I played them pretty well, told them it was REALLY nice of my dad to buy me a 325, but it wasn't what I was looking for. I was acting to be a modest rich kid and my roommate made me look arrogant by saying stuff like "yea he'll get a new car for Christmas" or "you know the Evo will be a nice addition".
So after quizzing the salesperson I was talking to about the Evo, I came to the conclusion that this man was pretty knowledgable about the Evo. Every question, whether very small or large in detail, he answered correctly, with a supporting statement. Well done Brad!
All this trickery went so well, that they even offered this "rich" 19 year old college student a test drive. Yes, even in this weather (we had about 6 inches of snow the past week). So I think I did well playing as a rich, yet modest 19 year old boy. And the salesman also did a good job being honest about the warranty policy and telling me CORRECT things about the Evo. I kinda feel bad about lying, but I had to say it was fun telling them my dad bought me that 325 without even telling me...
So as I pulled up to the dealer, my roommate suggested to trick the dealership into thinking I was looking for a new car. This sounded fun, and I wanted to see how well the sales team would treat me, so I played along. I pulled up to the dealer pretty arrogantly; I nearly parked the 325 across 3 parking spaces
Then I parked nicely...We walked inside, the salesman greeted me, not from his desk, but actually stood up and came to greet me. Good. I told them my dad bought my new 3 series without my consent, and was looking to buy a different car
I played them pretty well, told them it was REALLY nice of my dad to buy me a 325, but it wasn't what I was looking for. I was acting to be a modest rich kid and my roommate made me look arrogant by saying stuff like "yea he'll get a new car for Christmas" or "you know the Evo will be a nice addition".So after quizzing the salesperson I was talking to about the Evo, I came to the conclusion that this man was pretty knowledgable about the Evo. Every question, whether very small or large in detail, he answered correctly, with a supporting statement. Well done Brad!
All this trickery went so well, that they even offered this "rich" 19 year old college student a test drive. Yes, even in this weather (we had about 6 inches of snow the past week). So I think I did well playing as a rich, yet modest 19 year old boy. And the salesman also did a good job being honest about the warranty policy and telling me CORRECT things about the Evo. I kinda feel bad about lying, but I had to say it was fun telling them my dad bought me that 325 without even telling me...
geeeze, people are ruthless these days... granted its your opinion guys but telling him to grow up or lame or stupid idea isnt mature itself....
i agree that a lot of salespeople judge you and what you drive. i have owned 7 cars and 2 bikes myself. and when i went into the dealership to buy my evo, me being a young woman pulling up in a 93 civic, the guy was being a complete jerk to me. trying to tell me the car had all these things i knew the car didnt. i would grill him on the car and see how much he knew, obviously not enough. he tried telling me that the price that was listed on the cars was their cost and they couldnt do anything about the price. they wouldnt even let me test drive it. so after wasting 2 1/2 hours of my time arguing with the guy about the car, i walked out without my evo and really pissed off with this guy. and then for the next month after the salesman kept calling my phone asking me when i was coming in for the evo. it felt so good to finally tell him that i bought one from someone else....
i agree that a lot of salespeople judge you and what you drive. i have owned 7 cars and 2 bikes myself. and when i went into the dealership to buy my evo, me being a young woman pulling up in a 93 civic, the guy was being a complete jerk to me. trying to tell me the car had all these things i knew the car didnt. i would grill him on the car and see how much he knew, obviously not enough. he tried telling me that the price that was listed on the cars was their cost and they couldnt do anything about the price. they wouldnt even let me test drive it. so after wasting 2 1/2 hours of my time arguing with the guy about the car, i walked out without my evo and really pissed off with this guy. and then for the next month after the salesman kept calling my phone asking me when i was coming in for the evo. it felt so good to finally tell him that i bought one from someone else....
Last edited by evo4g63awd; Dec 13, 2005 at 11:38 PM.
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Before you get angry at a saleman for not treating you right, you have to first think about how are you and possibly other people (in this case, this 19 yrs old gentleman) treating the salesman. The world is all about respecting each other.
Most salesmen have gone through a lot, especially those mangers, and can see or sense if you are a truly customer to them.
Yes, salesmen DO treat you differently when they see what you drive up to the dealership. The buttom line is that you have to treat them probably before you expect them to treat you the same.
I bet when you are ready to buy an Evo (which you stated in 2-3 years), you will be treated by a salesman who is not treating you as they are supposed to or at least what you expected at a rate of 70% chance.
Most salesmen have gone through a lot, especially those mangers, and can see or sense if you are a truly customer to them.
Yes, salesmen DO treat you differently when they see what you drive up to the dealership. The buttom line is that you have to treat them probably before you expect them to treat you the same.
I bet when you are ready to buy an Evo (which you stated in 2-3 years), you will be treated by a salesman who is not treating you as they are supposed to or at least what you expected at a rate of 70% chance.
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Originally Posted by evo4g63awd
geeeze, people are ruthless these days... granted its your opinion guys but telling him to grow up or lame or stupid idea isnt mature itself....
i agree that a lot of salespeople judge you and what you drive. i have owned 7 cars and 2 bikes myself. and when i went into the dealership to buy my evo, me being a young woman pulling up in a 93 civic, the guy was being a complete jerk to me. trying to tell me the car had all these things i knew the car didnt. i would grill him on the car and see how much he knew, obviously not enough. he tried telling me that the price that was listed on the cars was their cost and they couldnt do anything about the price. they wouldnt even let me test drive it. so after wasting 2 1/2 hours of my time arguing with the guy about the car, i walked out without my evo and really pissed off with this guy. and then for the next month after the salesman kept calling my phone asking me when i was coming in for the evo. it felt so good to finally tell him that i bought one from someone else....
i agree that a lot of salespeople judge you and what you drive. i have owned 7 cars and 2 bikes myself. and when i went into the dealership to buy my evo, me being a young woman pulling up in a 93 civic, the guy was being a complete jerk to me. trying to tell me the car had all these things i knew the car didnt. i would grill him on the car and see how much he knew, obviously not enough. he tried telling me that the price that was listed on the cars was their cost and they couldnt do anything about the price. they wouldnt even let me test drive it. so after wasting 2 1/2 hours of my time arguing with the guy about the car, i walked out without my evo and really pissed off with this guy. and then for the next month after the salesman kept calling my phone asking me when i was coming in for the evo. it felt so good to finally tell him that i bought one from someone else....
Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
With proper education comes money and respect. Mixing verb tenses and using make-up words like "irregardless" probably won't get you a test drive. Are you in the auto dealership arena? And is there a "cheat sheet" for noob salesman that says something like "if they drive up in a clunker, don't give them a test drive"? If not, then how do you know other than personal experience? Anyone who says "irregardless" to me, shows his education level.
I doubt that there is a cheat sheet for car dealers that talks about who to give test drives to, but if you think for one minute that you are not being judged as you drive up to the lot before you ever get out of your car, you are living in a dream world. Dress in jeans and a tshirt. I'll do the same. You drive up in my 78 Ford and I'll drive up in my wifes Murano. Lets see who gets waited on first... I'll bet it's me 100% of the time. Little do they know that I am the one that is not educated, doesn't make any money and doesn't deserve their respect
Last edited by sandm; Dec 14, 2005 at 05:04 AM.
Originally Posted by Evolution Racer
That's just messed up... why test drive a car when you're not buying?