If he was so concerned with a few dollars of interest on an $800 C.C. balance why didn't he accept their discount offer. Better yet, if he can't afford a couple dollars of interest on a CC then...

1.) he shouldn't be spending money on a TBE
2.) he shouldn't have bought an Evo
3.) he shouldn't be on the internet...he should be working some OT

 

Thats my point you turd squirter this thread had nothing to do with interest. I was the one who brought up the interest thingy. Again I will tell you the same thign I told jdm pelase read the thread first and then post. This will help you out alot before you make yourself look like an embicile. Again pelase read the thread starter cause it had nothing to do with interest of any kind.

 

It's Mr. Squirter to you. I read your buddy's comments. His first complaint is that the parts were out of stock but he was told otherwise. That sucks and we can all relate. It's par for the course when you're dealing with a vendor rather than an actual manufacturer. I know it can feel like the world around you is crumbling when a vendor doesn't send an email for 3 days, but in the end what did he lose besides a few days? What did he gain? He lost nothing because they'll refund the money. He also gained nothing because he turned down a discount in order to make much ado about nothing on EvoM.

When it comes to vendor complaints I feel like EvoM is the perfect medium for it. If not for the exposure the site sponsors receive from these boards they wouldn't receive nearly the business. There's also some seriously fugged up situations...that FQ rim group buy, complaints about the 20G VIII, etc...but if people want to have any credibility they need to QUALIFY these type of situations before posting them. This thread is such a non-issue. It's not news-worthy in the least. I'd be surprised if the thread starter can legally drink a beer.

 

Do you have any idea what the law is buddy? Frauding a credit card transaction is a very serious crime. A matter of fact its a felony and depending on who he banks with it could be a federal offense as well. Like I said before he could take this to court if he wanted too. Fraudulent charging on credit cards is a very serious thing. I am suprised you being of drinking age doesnt know that. I understand late parts are common but fradulent charging is NOT. Get that through your head Mr. Turd squirter. He did the right thing by posting this. I also commend him for it for being honest with the community even though you idiots have your heads so far up your u know what you dont even recognize a crime when you see one. Again you guys are wrong and he is RIGHT!

Now if all this was about was his parts being late then I would agree with you even though he has the freedom of posting it. I dont care if they make it right or have already made it right I would definitely want to know if a vendor has had a problem with charging too much on a credit card. I dunno maybe you dont like money or you dont care but I do and I do care for others money.

 

hmm, i bought a version select bumper from the same vendor. to me, their service was great. i would call every other day and see whats happening with my order. they email me whenever they get an update or such. yes it gets aggrevating, but be patient. because i was excited to get my bumper, i received a cracked up bumper. so i complained to gruppe-s and told them. they contacted the shipping manufacturer that sent me my bumper. because my bumper was cracked and it wasnt their fault, they still sent me another bumper free of charge. the 2nd one i got was mint. my experience wasn't bad at all with them, as long as they made sure i was satisfied. so be patient. if you rush it, maybe you'll receive some messed up parts. who knows.

 

They accidentally overcharged him. They didn't arbitrarily bill his CC for the f*ck of it. Having stood there and listened to Preston, Tom and Andy take orders, I can tell you what happened if you want to know. If you would rather entertain this conspiracy theory that Mike's staff is on a little reign of credit car terror, then let me know and I'll save myself the time.

 

It could be as simple as two employee's sold the same parts the same day while they were both in stock.. maybe they need better inventory tracking.. but who am I to speculate.

If I was in that situation I would be upset at first too. If I received a prompt refund I would have gladly taken the offer and never thought twice about it.

I just don't understand what you expect to gain from this. The only thing I can think of is maybe you hope they loose biz which in return will make you happy. If this was a common problem with the company I could easily see myself doing the same thing.

With that said I've had small problems with random vendors myself. It's hard to stay calm when hard earned cash is involved but it's all about how you approach the problem and how they deal with it. I personally have had great success with the few "hard to find (at the time at least) items.

just my .02 guys nothing personal

 

Again, edumacate yourself on the law bud. I dont care if it was done on accident or pupose. It is fraud! If I accidentally took your wallet and then claimed honestly I didnt know it was yours (even though I really didnt know it was yours). Would you be happy? Not to menton would you beleive me? I dont know you and vice versa same with this individual in concordancve to group s. If I walked out of Nordstroms with 700dollar pair of loafers on and claimed(honestly) that I didnt know I still had them on from trying them on do you really think they are going to care?

 

I felt this was appropriate.

 

i was not going to post in this but this is just too much. you are not talking about a shady business that just started slinging parts of the back of the truck. gruppe-s has been a respected vendor on here and other forums for a long time and i can say from personal experience that they are VERY honest guys that work verry hard to make their clients happy. blaming them of fraud and calling the police is taking it way too far. it could have been an honest mistake (i worked in the business and it is VERY easy to make a mistake about which parts are in stock when you have a BIG inventroy and working with other distributers) and charging a card can also be a honest mistake (subway charged my credit card $445 last week for 2 subs and i did not call the cops). the bottom line is that they said that they will refund the money and also offered a small gift for their mistake.

 

It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation with people who would rather complain about a problem than fix it. It's twice as pointless to have a conversation with people like that who still go on and on about a problem AFTER it's been fixed. When exactly does common sense take over? Gruppe-S doesn't have cyborgs working for them. They're not automatrons. They're people on the other end of those phones. Those people also have nothing to gain by overcharging a customer. They're just employees. That's why they fixed the mistake and then offered to compensate homeboy for the inconvenience. Where's the deception in all of that?

 

Read the thread starter you idiot! It hasnt been fixed yet. He said he that groupe said "they will refund his money" not that group has refunded his money. There is a difference in verb usage there. Now if they already refunded the money then thats onething but tey havent yet. At least thats what I read out of the post maybe you got somehting different.

And I am the one making things happen while you sit here explaining to people "o dont worry it will be ok. Your only out 700bucks dont worry they are respected so they wil fix it." I am sorry but you could be the number one so and so in the world but you f up like this it just shows that this business isnt doing its job as efficiently as you all thought they were and they need to get checked. Capice!?!?!

 

i will only say this once to you:

if you use anymore name calling you will be banned. i don't care that your entire argument is retarded but i do care about you calling people names in order to get your point across.

 

I had all sorts of names I stopped myself from calling you, but you were the first to get personal. It speaks to your character and your level of maturity. A CC transaction (refund or debit) will not appear for 24-48 hours in most cases. It has to go through two financial institutions. He'll get his money tomorrow or the next day but you'll never bump this thread to say you were wrong. You're not man enough. You'll just find something else to complain about.

 

Well read the thread before you start accusing me of name caling. Not to mention the whole forum is full of it. Or do you want to argue that as well?

Also my argument is correct with the standards of the LAW. If you cant understand that then as a mod you should know when an infraction of a retarded nature would occur.

IMO it is retarded to let someone commit fraudulent charges on your credit card and not do anyhting about it. Hows that for a retarded argument?

PS. I hope you being a moderator dont ban me cause I dont agree with you. However, banishment is always the easy way out. Now I can understand if I was flaming someone for no apparent reason but if someone choses to not read the thread starter and posts somethign that is obviously not true and you are constantly being called on it IMO that is idiocy. However, I understand you have to do your job.