Originally Posted by czp25

I guess i'm lucky, i live in a county in IL that doesn't require any vehicle inspections. Otherwise they would get me for an illegal blue hose.

Originally Posted by ejlozon

If you are in fact having a "one on one", and directing your comments at an individual (or 2), then I retract my statements of you stereotyping. Your comment struck me as a generalization, just like you were complaining about

Originally Posted by enderr

You guys should have a look at this. Just completly unreal...

(I found it on vwvortex...)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NCyMkB0uMeg

Originally Posted by Gonzo314

Some of you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The video doesn't promote cops to ticket every single modified vehicle on the road. That's stupid. It educates the police on what is illegal and what makes for PC to stop the vehicle. I'm sure many of you have even been pulled over on the premis that "your exhaust is modified, that's why I stopped you". How many of you actually got a ticket. Not counting the ones who were being an a$$ at the time of the stop (or the ones who got pulled over by CHP....it's their job....traffic and accidents.....sorry).

PC to stop a vehicle is what nets us all the felony arrests. People aren't so stupid (some anyways) as to walk around with a sign on their chest saying "hey I'm a parolee at large, my wants are parole violation, attempted murder, and ADW". That takes investigative work. Pulling people over for little things like the cracked taillight out, etc. are how we catch these people.

Hell I just pulled over an evo the other day for having pink rear turn signals (illegal btw). I didn't give him a ticket...but I did run him for warrants. Not a big deal. I let him go. We had an evo stolen and totaled a couple of months ago, I wanted to make sure the car was his. The reason I pulled him over, aside from the turn signals, was because I had never seen an evo in the area that I patrol. Kind of unusual in that neighborhood. Not a bad area all together, but bordered by a ghetto with a bunch of parolee families, lots of stolen cars, and drugs. I informed him of the possibility of having his car stolen in the neighborhood and told him to park it in the garage "have a nice day". If that makes us bad people...so be it. If he was an a$$ I would have given him a ticket. That's usually a prerequisit for me.

Aside from that, if I actually caught someone racing in my neighborhoods or general area....I am going to pop the hood, find out whatever does not have a dot or carb approval and cite the hell out of him/her. Price you pay. Until it becomes legal to drive 100 miles per hour in an area where normal traffic is doing 30, that is going to be our reaction.

Btw, for you evo owners who own their own shops, companies, (make a lot of money) etc. petition your city to build a track for these such events. Get together and be organized. Find out what signatures you would need, an area where it would be able to host it, and go from there. Our departments have looked into it but found that it was too expensive from the get go. In other words, not advantageous for our departments (read: money>kids lives). If someone can get it started I'm pretty sure our departments will support the idea as long as it is done correctly (IE having police on site, fire and amr on site, rules, safety regulations). Didn't somewhere down south like LA do something like this???

Originally Posted by Mean TT

First let me begin by saying that I rarely post here but let's call a spade a spade.

Does anyone believe that if poliece could only give community service tickets for these (illegal street racing parts) instead of fines that there would be the same desire to look at these parts and ticket blue hoses?

This reminds me of the red light cameras. There was an article a few years ago that showed what the point of red light cameras was... to generate money and wow were they successful. They also generated MORE accidents at each intersection that they were used at. That's right the decreased saftey... way to go.

I have always hated big brother laws, and to be honest, if someone is racing on the streets, they deserve a ticket. But there is an innocent until proven guilty standard that all crimes must meet. Street racing is completely unrelated to these tickets. Street racing is combated by arresting STREET RACERS. FWIW I think CARB is nothing more than another creative way for the state of California to raise money for the politicians to waste - as usual. Give me a break on the stickers and all of the certifications. The ONLY thing that should matter is if a car meets emissions and is driven safely. Smog test every year, and common sense poliece work will solve more problems then yet another over anxious law passed for the "benifit" of the community.

What a load.....

Originally Posted by EVO-8-Nate

Nmusaf you can keep Cali!

Again, I don't like that crap and that is why I will never live there unless forced too. The laws are just rediculous!

Your cops suck even if they are just doing there jobs. I would say that they are tools!

-Nate

Originally Posted by 13-0

I dont think weve had a conversation copper. Maybe it was another "street racer". Thats pretty damn ironic after your thinking and reading comment isnt it.

Originally Posted by Nmusaf

Lol you STILL can not formulate an argument for the things I'm saying! Your asking me if I thought much lately? I've written like 2 pages worth of stuff. In everything I have written in outlines one basic thing. These laws are wrong, but they are the law. If you don't like the law, change it! Vote, blame the people who are really to blame.

You having trouble reading?

Did you not see where I said it is NOT the police's job to interpret the law? That is the judge's job! So, shouldn't you be asking the judge if he's thought much lately?

When you can come back with a legit argument, instead of a worthless personal attack, go for it. Until then, I'm tired of stooping to your level.

Originally Posted by eehjay

I drove by a motorcycle cop in a school zone here in Vegas once that tried to stop me for a loud exhaust. Once he told me why he pulled me over I kinda laughed and he got pissed and asked me if I thought it was some kind of a joke. I said "Sir, I don't even have an exhaust. I have an intake that I just put it, but I don't have an exhaust." Then he said "You're lucky you caught me on a day where I'm not allowed to inspect you for illegal parts." No joke I went home laughing telling my mom some dumb cop tried to pull me over for being an asian streetracer stereotype (asian, spiked hair, dark tint, loud music)

Originally Posted by LancerMMC

So let me get this straight, the sound of the exhaust is up to the cop's judgement? What the hell kind of policy is that? I thought it was based on dB. What if you have a stock exhaust that a cop thinks is too loud? Over at the NASIOC board there's people talking about getting tickets because the cops think the stock hood scoop is illegal. I would love to get pulled over for a stock part just so I could go to court prove the part is stock and DOT approved so the cop looks like a dumbass in front of the judge and everyone else in court.

It's one thing to catch a person in the act, it's another to simply pull them over for owning an import. It's like a cop saying, "I see you own a gun, which can be used for the purpose of robbing a bank." Owning a gun doesn't automatically make you a criminal, just like owning an import with a couple performance mods doesn't automatically make you a street racer. So as I said, if you're street racing and a cop catches you, you just gave him all the reason to pull you over and inspect your vehicle. But if you're simply driving around then it's not right.

I recall an Access Unlimited article by a CA cop in which he says there's a guy on their force that drives a modified Tiburon and tries to get people to race him. Somehow them taunting you to break the law is not entrapment.

I find the cop/quota thing funny. Every cop I've talked to, worked with, all deny having a quota. They can write as few as or as many tickets as they want. But the myth continues because it's always the last couple days of the month when all the cops are out there.

And what makes absolutely no sense is import shops. While in San Diego I went to Pann Auto Performance for parts and installation. A shop can sell you and install something and it's legal, but having it is illegal? That's like saying, a drug dealer can sell you crack but using it is illegal.

Originally Posted by 05ES

Nah, I'm a volunteer Firefighter, most of the cops are cool with me and they know I mod my car. They'll tell me if this is **** or not.