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Originally Posted by 04ozrally
is a fast electric car possible or would get in drained in a few hours?
As far as durability of the battery, Mitsubishi has been working with a couple of Japanese companies on that (actually some of those projects are half-sponsored by the Japanese government) and the current prototype for Colt EV supposedly gives you around 300 miles on a single charge. A 10 minute battery charge of Lancer EVO EV gave around 155 miles of range. But again we have to remember that this was all happening in 2004-2006 and 2010 is still 4 years away and they will improve the distances.
But then again, knowing electricity providing companies they will probably increase the prices of electricity if EVs become huge so we probably won't save a whole lot of money compared to gas unless we will install some electricity self generating devices to really save up. But the technology is definately more environment friendly so at least we won't have to breathe a whole lot more of CO2.
In my opinion Mitsubishi is up to something with it's MIEV technology. Spreading the engine in to 4 wheels means no need for a combustion engine in the front meaning that it would give a greater designing freedom meaning we would see cars of shapes never seen before.
In all reality current hybrids are overrated. They are underpowered, the amount of money you have to pay for the technology doesn't justify the amount of fuel saved considering that most people keep their cars for around 4 years. And probably the worst part of it all is that when you run out of warranty on your hybrid and need a repair you basically have to go to your dealer (and pay dealer prices) as most auto shops are not qualified nor have the technology to deal with hybrids.
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You guys are so down on the other cars, but you really aren't informed on how they are. The only thing I keeep hearing is how everybody thinks they are so ugly. But ugly doesn't mean crappy.
They have had no major recalls since '02 - unlike almost every other major automaker.
Consumer Reports picked them fourth for overall brand reliability behind Lexus, Honda and Toyota.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/carrev...ity/index.html
The Galant has safer crash ratings then the '06 Camry, Accord, and Altima. And is one of the cheapest cars in America to ensure.
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3550.html
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/...7/article.html
The Endeavor and Outlander have both recieved similar accolades.
The Eclipse will most likely be just as strong as it is built with same components as the Galant and Endeavor, and now the Lancer and Outlander get redone into even better cars soon.
The cars have reasonable power, that put them midpack, not at the top like Nissan, but nowhere near the bottom, and they already all handle well, they have just needed someone in charge that knows how to market them bettter. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the vehicles. I think most of the current designs look much better just by removing the corporate nose, and that's already happening. Maybe they will go back to offering turbo and AWD as an option on Eclipses and Galants and making Ralliart a real inhouse tuning division/brand. I have a feeling people wouldn't complain how ugly the Galant is, if it was offered with AWD and a twinturbo V6 pushing out 350hp. Or the Eclipse, if it was offered in a no frills (sans Brembos, Recaros, ACD, front/rear LSD, 5sp only) Evo drivetrain for about 27K.
They have had no major recalls since '02 - unlike almost every other major automaker.
Consumer Reports picked them fourth for overall brand reliability behind Lexus, Honda and Toyota.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/carrev...ity/index.html
The Galant has safer crash ratings then the '06 Camry, Accord, and Altima. And is one of the cheapest cars in America to ensure.
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3550.html
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/...7/article.html
The Endeavor and Outlander have both recieved similar accolades.
The Eclipse will most likely be just as strong as it is built with same components as the Galant and Endeavor, and now the Lancer and Outlander get redone into even better cars soon.
The cars have reasonable power, that put them midpack, not at the top like Nissan, but nowhere near the bottom, and they already all handle well, they have just needed someone in charge that knows how to market them bettter. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the vehicles. I think most of the current designs look much better just by removing the corporate nose, and that's already happening. Maybe they will go back to offering turbo and AWD as an option on Eclipses and Galants and making Ralliart a real inhouse tuning division/brand. I have a feeling people wouldn't complain how ugly the Galant is, if it was offered with AWD and a twinturbo V6 pushing out 350hp. Or the Eclipse, if it was offered in a no frills (sans Brembos, Recaros, ACD, front/rear LSD, 5sp only) Evo drivetrain for about 27K.
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
You guys are so down on the other cars, but you really aren't informed on how they are. The only thing I keeep hearing is how everybody thinks they are so ugly. But ugly doesn't mean crappy.
They have had no major recalls since '02 - unlike almost every other major automaker.
Consumer Reports picked them fourth for overall brand reliability behind Lexus, Honda and Toyota.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/carrev...ity/index.html
The Galant has safer crash ratings then the '06 Camry, Accord, and Altima. And is one of the cheapest cars in America to ensure.
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3550.html
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/...7/article.html
The Endeavor and Outlander have both recieved similar accolades.
The Eclipse will most likely be just as strong as it is built with same components as the Galant and Endeavor, and now the Lancer and Outlander get redone into even better cars soon.
The cars have reasonable power, that put them midpack, not at the top like Nissan, but nowhere near the bottom, and they already all handle well, they have just needed someone in charge that knows how to market them bettter. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the vehicles. I think most of the current designs look much better just by removing the corporate nose, and that's already happening. Maybe they will go back to offering turbo and AWD as an option on Eclipses and Galants and making Ralliart a real inhouse tuning division/brand. I have a feeling people wouldn't complain how ugly the Galant is, if it was offered with AWD and a twinturbo V6 pushing out 350hp. Or the Eclipse, if it was offered in a no frills (sans Brembos, Recaros, ACD, front/rear LSD, 5sp only) Evo drivetrain for about 27K.
They have had no major recalls since '02 - unlike almost every other major automaker.
Consumer Reports picked them fourth for overall brand reliability behind Lexus, Honda and Toyota.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/carrev...ity/index.html
The Galant has safer crash ratings then the '06 Camry, Accord, and Altima. And is one of the cheapest cars in America to ensure.
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3550.html
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/...7/article.html
The Endeavor and Outlander have both recieved similar accolades.
The Eclipse will most likely be just as strong as it is built with same components as the Galant and Endeavor, and now the Lancer and Outlander get redone into even better cars soon.
The cars have reasonable power, that put them midpack, not at the top like Nissan, but nowhere near the bottom, and they already all handle well, they have just needed someone in charge that knows how to market them bettter. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the vehicles. I think most of the current designs look much better just by removing the corporate nose, and that's already happening. Maybe they will go back to offering turbo and AWD as an option on Eclipses and Galants and making Ralliart a real inhouse tuning division/brand. I have a feeling people wouldn't complain how ugly the Galant is, if it was offered with AWD and a twinturbo V6 pushing out 350hp. Or the Eclipse, if it was offered in a no frills (sans Brembos, Recaros, ACD, front/rear LSD, 5sp only) Evo drivetrain for about 27K.
Oh I am glad you touched upon horsepower wars. Mitsubishi engines are really good, as a matter of a fact I would say they are underrated in the automotive world. I know car manufacturers lie about true HP rating (of course they usually make them higher). Take a look at this article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...rs_comparison/ and read the 4th and 5th paragraph and compare the manufacturers HP and torque ratings to the dyno tests.
Mitsubishi claims that it's 2.4l cast iron engine produces 162HP/162 lb-ft of torque but the dyno test shows 157HP/155lb-ft of torque, not that far off is it? BUT Nissan claims that it's 2.5l all-aluminum engine produces 175HP/180ft-lb of torque, so going by the manufacturers numbers Sentra has a more powerful engine, BUT the dyno test shows 151HP/159lb-ft of torque. So it is just one example that Mitsubishi is actually not that bad in the ACTUAL power ratings considering that they still use cast iron engines instead of all-aluminum. Sentra has a better acceleration but thats because it is about 150lbs lighter (mostly due to use of the all-aluminum engine) which is not a small amount but then again Lancer is a more comfortable car.
But Mitsubishis next batch of engines will also be all-aluminum.
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I had forgotten about that. Nissan has been grabbing headlines for their big hp claims, but they have also been caught up in fudging too. The Eclipse GT's have been putting power down in the 230-240whp range too, and Mitsubishi was already using the tougher SAE standard that caused Honda and Toyotas ratings to drop. Mazda's gotten busted for the RX-8, Miata, and now the Speed6 is having its problems running on anything less then 93 octane gas.
The new Galant Ralliart will hopefully trounce the Altima SE-R:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=115407
The new Galant Ralliart will hopefully trounce the Altima SE-R:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=115407
Last edited by GPTourer; Jun 1, 2006 at 08:09 AM.
Originally Posted by blitzkrieg79
I am not here to argue or anything but going by your logic Mitsu should fold right now as they won't be able to penetrate ANY market as sub-compacts are dominated by Toyota and Honda, mid-size by again Toyota and Honda, vans by Toyota Honda and domectics, SUVs by again Toyota Honda and American offerings, and pick-up trucks are dominated by Americans but Toyota is slowly getting in on it.
It is difficult to penetrate any type of automotive market but thats where good marketing and great car designs come in to play.
My point with the Colt, L200, Grandis was that Mitsubishi is very capable of producing good looking, reliable cars, but WHY can't they do the same in USA? All we get here are Americanized cars that don't look anything like what Mitsubishi really stands for but rather looks like a design reaction to American tastes (decided by a couple of top level US execs who are out of touch with reality). Mitsu should just go with their own flow and start producing cars that they want to produce and not cars that the HAVE to produce because some dumb exec in US who has no design sense thinks Americans will buy it. Lets face it, the current Galant, Eclipse, and Raider don't look too good and the only way they would start selling better would be to lower the prices but thats not a good idea from Mitsubishi Motors perspective.
They need new fresh unique bold designs that will grab attention of the customers. If they will produce bland cars they will fail because if I want to buy bland I will pick Honda and Toyota who have a well established name here in USA.
Mitsubishi has been married for far too long to Chrysler, it's a good thing that Daimler/Chrysler got rid of Mitsu. Now Mitsu doesn't have to be a part of car politics but rather just design their own cars without any outside "help". And the 2007 Outlander, I think, is a step in the right direction. It already received a Good Design Award given/voted by the top engineers in Japan.
It is difficult to penetrate any type of automotive market but thats where good marketing and great car designs come in to play.
My point with the Colt, L200, Grandis was that Mitsubishi is very capable of producing good looking, reliable cars, but WHY can't they do the same in USA? All we get here are Americanized cars that don't look anything like what Mitsubishi really stands for but rather looks like a design reaction to American tastes (decided by a couple of top level US execs who are out of touch with reality). Mitsu should just go with their own flow and start producing cars that they want to produce and not cars that the HAVE to produce because some dumb exec in US who has no design sense thinks Americans will buy it. Lets face it, the current Galant, Eclipse, and Raider don't look too good and the only way they would start selling better would be to lower the prices but thats not a good idea from Mitsubishi Motors perspective.
They need new fresh unique bold designs that will grab attention of the customers. If they will produce bland cars they will fail because if I want to buy bland I will pick Honda and Toyota who have a well established name here in USA.
Mitsubishi has been married for far too long to Chrysler, it's a good thing that Daimler/Chrysler got rid of Mitsu. Now Mitsu doesn't have to be a part of car politics but rather just design their own cars without any outside "help". And the 2007 Outlander, I think, is a step in the right direction. It already received a Good Design Award given/voted by the top engineers in Japan.
What I did say was, compare to it's competitors (nissan, honda, toyota), the lancer does not do well, or offer anything better (fresh or new). I give credit to mazda for bringing out the 3s and 3i, because they offer a great total package, I can not say the same about the lancer. The new 06 civic offers a great total package as well. Also with the new 07 sentra dropping this summer and 07/08 corolla dropping a bit later, I think mitsu is gonna need to pull out all the stop to even stay in the running. If mitsu gave the USDM lancer the same or better options/feature as the JDM lancer, than they could stand much better against the 3 giants, possible take over some of the market share.
Far as the galant, I just don't like how they americanized it and took the stratus and threw on the three diamonds. I did not say it could not compete with the accord, camry, or altima. Additionally, I read the once 6spd tranny in the galant ralliart is now being replace with a AT? C'mon now. Any car deem "ralliart [performance tuned vehicle]" should come with a manual standard and auto as an option, period.
Far as the grandis, I really like that van and it look good, but I don't think americans are ready for a minivan from mitsubishi. I don't think mitsubishi is ready to bring a minivan into the state when they having trouble selling there current crop. Furthermore, minivan are not the "it" market right now, they are loosing steam as these crossover suv are making a new hit. Mitsu should just wait it out till further notice.
Far as the L200, I like this truck as well and it looks good IMO, but americans are not ready for this truck. Especially when you have ridgelines, titans, tacomas, and the offerings from dodge, chevy, and ford. I think the raider has a a good bold look from the dakota, but with mitsu appeal. If anything, give it a better engine. That v8 can not out tow the smaller v6 ridgeline, tisk tisk tisk.
Far as the Colt, that is my favorite car out of the bunch, but again, like the grandis, americans are not ready yet. Why? Well, we just got the Yaris and Fit, and we actually don't know how they are selling yet (hard figures). I really like the Fit best, and would love to see the colt go up against, but mitsu is just waiting. Im sure they are watching this smaller compact market between honda/toyota very closely to see how us americans dwell on it, if it is a sure fire hit, im positivie we could see the colt as early as winter 06/07.
I don't think mitsu needs 'bold' designs, they need soft, sharp, sexy designs, a la lexus, infiniti or acura. Yes, they need to move there exterior a bit more upscale without looking out the ordinary (ex: new mazda, tC, rsx-s). When I think of bold, I think of the recent crop from dodge and ford... as these companies have stated many times that there new cars incorporate "bold" new looks. Mitsu needs to stop this americanizing crap and stay with there japanese look. They are a japanese company at heart, not an american car company.
Time will tell, but honestly, they need to act fast. Of course as mitsu owners we don't want to hear that are car company may leave our shores, but I think reality and I think now, and currently, it's not good. Personally, if I was CEO and got to make all the final desicion, it would be one hell of a meeting. It could go on for pages on what I would mitsu to do and how it could change for the best.
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I think they should make a separate division for mitsubishi, like ralliart/usa that will still be distributing evo9's even after the mainstream evox comes out to keep the history alive and make it known that mitsubishi makes these performance cars 
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
No, my logic did not state anything of the sort.
What I did say was, compare to it's competitors (nissan, honda, toyota), the lancer does not do well, or offer anything better (fresh or new). I give credit to mazda for bringing out the 3s and 3i, because they offer a great total package, I can not say the same about the lancer. The new 06 civic offers a great total package as well. Also with the new 07 sentra dropping this summer and 07/08 corolla dropping a bit later, I think mitsu is gonna need to pull out all the stop to even stay in the running. If mitsu gave the USDM lancer the same or better options/feature as the JDM lancer, than they could stand much better against the 3 giants, possible take over some of the market share.
Far as the galant, I just don't like how they americanized it and took the stratus and threw on the three diamonds. I did not say it could not compete with the accord, camry, or altima. Additionally, I read the once 6spd tranny in the galant ralliart is now being replace with a AT? C'mon now. Any car deem "ralliart [performance tuned vehicle]" should come with a manual standard and auto as an option, period.
Far as the grandis, I really like that van and it look good, but I don't think americans are ready for a minivan from mitsubishi. I don't think mitsubishi is ready to bring a minivan into the state when they having trouble selling there current crop. Furthermore, minivan are not the "it" market right now, they are loosing steam as these crossover suv are making a new hit. Mitsu should just wait it out till further notice.
Far as the L200, I like this truck as well and it looks good IMO, but americans are not ready for this truck. Especially when you have ridgelines, titans, tacomas, and the offerings from dodge, chevy, and ford. I think the raider has a a good bold look from the dakota, but with mitsu appeal. If anything, give it a better engine. That v8 can not out tow the smaller v6 ridgeline, tisk tisk tisk.
Far as the Colt, that is my favorite car out of the bunch, but again, like the grandis, americans are not ready yet. Why? Well, we just got the Yaris and Fit, and we actually don't know how they are selling yet (hard figures). I really like the Fit best, and would love to see the colt go up against, but mitsu is just waiting. Im sure they are watching this smaller compact market between honda/toyota very closely to see how us americans dwell on it, if it is a sure fire hit, im positivie we could see the colt as early as winter 06/07.
I don't think mitsu needs 'bold' designs, they need soft, sharp, sexy designs, a la lexus, infiniti or acura. Yes, they need to move there exterior a bit more upscale without looking out the ordinary (ex: new mazda, tC, rsx-s). When I think of bold, I think of the recent crop from dodge and ford... as these companies have stated many times that there new cars incorporate "bold" new looks. Mitsu needs to stop this americanizing crap and stay with there japanese look. They are a japanese company at heart, not an american car company.
Time will tell, but honestly, they need to act fast. Of course as mitsu owners we don't want to hear that are car company may leave our shores, but I think reality and I think now, and currently, it's not good. Personally, if I was CEO and got to make all the final desicion, it would be one hell of a meeting. It could go on for pages on what I would mitsu to do and how it could change for the best.
What I did say was, compare to it's competitors (nissan, honda, toyota), the lancer does not do well, or offer anything better (fresh or new). I give credit to mazda for bringing out the 3s and 3i, because they offer a great total package, I can not say the same about the lancer. The new 06 civic offers a great total package as well. Also with the new 07 sentra dropping this summer and 07/08 corolla dropping a bit later, I think mitsu is gonna need to pull out all the stop to even stay in the running. If mitsu gave the USDM lancer the same or better options/feature as the JDM lancer, than they could stand much better against the 3 giants, possible take over some of the market share.
Far as the galant, I just don't like how they americanized it and took the stratus and threw on the three diamonds. I did not say it could not compete with the accord, camry, or altima. Additionally, I read the once 6spd tranny in the galant ralliart is now being replace with a AT? C'mon now. Any car deem "ralliart [performance tuned vehicle]" should come with a manual standard and auto as an option, period.
Far as the grandis, I really like that van and it look good, but I don't think americans are ready for a minivan from mitsubishi. I don't think mitsubishi is ready to bring a minivan into the state when they having trouble selling there current crop. Furthermore, minivan are not the "it" market right now, they are loosing steam as these crossover suv are making a new hit. Mitsu should just wait it out till further notice.
Far as the L200, I like this truck as well and it looks good IMO, but americans are not ready for this truck. Especially when you have ridgelines, titans, tacomas, and the offerings from dodge, chevy, and ford. I think the raider has a a good bold look from the dakota, but with mitsu appeal. If anything, give it a better engine. That v8 can not out tow the smaller v6 ridgeline, tisk tisk tisk.
Far as the Colt, that is my favorite car out of the bunch, but again, like the grandis, americans are not ready yet. Why? Well, we just got the Yaris and Fit, and we actually don't know how they are selling yet (hard figures). I really like the Fit best, and would love to see the colt go up against, but mitsu is just waiting. Im sure they are watching this smaller compact market between honda/toyota very closely to see how us americans dwell on it, if it is a sure fire hit, im positivie we could see the colt as early as winter 06/07.
I don't think mitsu needs 'bold' designs, they need soft, sharp, sexy designs, a la lexus, infiniti or acura. Yes, they need to move there exterior a bit more upscale without looking out the ordinary (ex: new mazda, tC, rsx-s). When I think of bold, I think of the recent crop from dodge and ford... as these companies have stated many times that there new cars incorporate "bold" new looks. Mitsu needs to stop this americanizing crap and stay with there japanese look. They are a japanese company at heart, not an american car company.
Time will tell, but honestly, they need to act fast. Of course as mitsu owners we don't want to hear that are car company may leave our shores, but I think reality and I think now, and currently, it's not good. Personally, if I was CEO and got to make all the final desicion, it would be one hell of a meeting. It could go on for pages on what I would mitsu to do and how it could change for the best.
Oh when I meant new bold designs I meant something totally new and fresh, Concept X and Sportsback Concept kind of fresh, If the new Lancer will be 75% as cool looking as the Sportsback Concept I think Mitsubishi should catch the eye of a lot of customers. They will use the world engines in them so power and fuel consumption shouldn't be a problem as world engines are pretty much top of the line compared to it's current competition.
As far as Grandis is concerned, I think it would make much more sense for Mitsubishi to come up with a van and not the pickup truck (Raider sales are a joke, good thing is that it doesn't cost Mitsu a whole lot as it's really not their design). Americans really don't buy a whole lot of foreign pickup trucks, neither Toyota, Nissan, and especially Honda are reporting spectacular pickup truck sales. Ford and Chevy are still the king of sales in that aspect.
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The current Lancer design is old. Its been around since calendar year 2000 for overseas, so it was already midcycle when we got it, and then Mitsu let it stagnate by having it hang around until 2006. So it is easy to pick on it when new and fresh designs from Honda and Nissan have arrived or about to arrive.
Yes, I am biased, but I have driven many of the new Honda Civics (I sell them), and frankly, once you get past the swoopy design and the flashy dash, it is still just a ho-hum econo car - nothing special. Its engine doesn't feel like 140hp to me, and it is very loud on the inside. I really think a 2006 Lancer ES rides smoother and quieter. Its high points are its safety (6 airbags), and its fuel economy 30 city 40 highway for the 5sp auto, and that it is a Honda. So it has swept all the awards and people are going to by them no matter what. But I don't believe the hype that it is really that much of a better car. The current Sentra and Corrolla are definitely no better then the Lancer, in my opionion. I have not been in enough Mazda 3's to get a strong opinion of them, but the fact that it is just a Ford Focus in disguise gives me enough doubt.
When the new Lancer comes out, its going to have to have extremely good mileage, and the girls are going to have to think it is cute. They really need a coupe/hatch model that is far cheaper then the Eclipse to combat the Civic coupe/Scion tC juggernauts that run that segment, but I am sure they don't want to cannibalize Eclipse GS sales which are very good right now.
Anyway, what I am saying is, we realize the Lancer is an old deisgn, but let's wait until we see the new one before we draw comparisons between it and the next gen rides.
And yes, Ridgeline sales do suck. After the Raider debacle, I don't think bringing the L200 over should be a high priority. Odyssey sales are huge, but the Grandis is not designed for the American market. IT does not have sliding doors. The JDM ODyssey has sedan/wagon like doors like the Grandis does. Honda builds the sliding door style for us right here in Alabama. I doubt Mitsu can afford to redesign the Grandis for our style of van, so I don't think they are going to bring it over anytime soon.
Yes, I am biased, but I have driven many of the new Honda Civics (I sell them), and frankly, once you get past the swoopy design and the flashy dash, it is still just a ho-hum econo car - nothing special. Its engine doesn't feel like 140hp to me, and it is very loud on the inside. I really think a 2006 Lancer ES rides smoother and quieter. Its high points are its safety (6 airbags), and its fuel economy 30 city 40 highway for the 5sp auto, and that it is a Honda. So it has swept all the awards and people are going to by them no matter what. But I don't believe the hype that it is really that much of a better car. The current Sentra and Corrolla are definitely no better then the Lancer, in my opionion. I have not been in enough Mazda 3's to get a strong opinion of them, but the fact that it is just a Ford Focus in disguise gives me enough doubt.
When the new Lancer comes out, its going to have to have extremely good mileage, and the girls are going to have to think it is cute. They really need a coupe/hatch model that is far cheaper then the Eclipse to combat the Civic coupe/Scion tC juggernauts that run that segment, but I am sure they don't want to cannibalize Eclipse GS sales which are very good right now.
Anyway, what I am saying is, we realize the Lancer is an old deisgn, but let's wait until we see the new one before we draw comparisons between it and the next gen rides.
And yes, Ridgeline sales do suck. After the Raider debacle, I don't think bringing the L200 over should be a high priority. Odyssey sales are huge, but the Grandis is not designed for the American market. IT does not have sliding doors. The JDM ODyssey has sedan/wagon like doors like the Grandis does. Honda builds the sliding door style for us right here in Alabama. I doubt Mitsu can afford to redesign the Grandis for our style of van, so I don't think they are going to bring it over anytime soon.
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The only car that's doing well for Mitsubishi right now is the Eclipse. Everything else is way down.
They've double their sales year to date last year: 8,396 vs 4,120 thu April 06
http://www.aicautosite.com/editoria/asmr/homesuv.asp
They've double their sales year to date last year: 8,396 vs 4,120 thu April 06
http://www.aicautosite.com/editoria/asmr/homesuv.asp
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I am pretty sure that the Viper GTS-R ACR is a V-12. I don't know if the Hennesey is, but I didn't beleive it when I first heard that Cadilac was coming out with a 16 cylider car, till I saw the story on it. All I really know is that no matter the cylinders, no matter the horse, I want to drive it... 
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Originally Posted by jperryrocks
The only car that's doing well for Mitsubishi right now is the Eclipse. Everything else is way down.
They've double their sales year to date last year: 8,396 vs 4,120 thu April 06
http://www.aicautosite.com/editoria/asmr/homesuv.asp
They've double their sales year to date last year: 8,396 vs 4,120 thu April 06
http://www.aicautosite.com/editoria/asmr/homesuv.asp
Over the past couple of months they had an increased sales growth compared to the same period of the previous year.
So, Mitsubishi sales in Japan are really up, so are in Europe, and in USA they are SLOWLY picking up but they are picking up which I guess is a whole lot better than if they would decrease.
Last edited by blitzkrieg79; Jun 2, 2006 at 02:03 PM.
The problem I have with MMNA is once they have a firm footing in a segment, they go literally their own way and try to so something so "NorthAmericanish" they stumble. This was most evident with the 2G Eclipse moving over to the Galant platform. (Holy Fat and Heavy "Sportscar" Batman!)
I believe the Lancer's have been in the same boat. Its a pretty good all arounder, but it's been changed so much from its Japanese sister, they have turned out downright unappealing. What's neat is in comparison to my EVO the USDM Lancer really has the same pitch and roll, and kiss as the EVO. The EVO just has about 2x more of everything to play with when you want to get 'frisky'.
I'm glad Mitsu's sales are up ... I'm sad they pulled out a dealership in my hometown. ... Yet I'm happy again the aftermarket is such that I can kinda do everything myself.
Thanks,
~J.
I believe the Lancer's have been in the same boat. Its a pretty good all arounder, but it's been changed so much from its Japanese sister, they have turned out downright unappealing. What's neat is in comparison to my EVO the USDM Lancer really has the same pitch and roll, and kiss as the EVO. The EVO just has about 2x more of everything to play with when you want to get 'frisky'.
I'm glad Mitsu's sales are up ... I'm sad they pulled out a dealership in my hometown. ... Yet I'm happy again the aftermarket is such that I can kinda do everything myself.
Thanks,
~J.
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Originally Posted by jcnel_evo8
This was most evident with the 2G Eclipse moving over to the Galant platform. (Holy Fat and Heavy "Sportscar" Batman!)
1G Eclipse = 6G Galant.
+1 to each side up until now.
I believe the Lancer's have been in the same boat. Its a pretty good all arounder, but it's been changed so much from its Japanese sister, they have turned out downright unappealing.
Did anyone read this?
Mitsubishi to bail on U.S.?
Posted Jun 1st 2006 11:57PM by Erin Mays
Filed under: Car Buying, Marketing/Advertising, Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi has thrown down the gauntlet. If dealers can't sell its new products like the Outlander and Lancer, the company may pull out of the United States completely. Mitsubishi's product boss, Shinichi Kurihara said as much at a press event, indicating that the company's recovery rides on the success of the vehicles. The company is down 16.5 percent to 36,536 units so far this year, and its Normal, Ill. plant employs just one shift. Predictably, dealers have responded by urging Mitsubishi brass to open up their wallets and spend more money on advertising here in the States.
Meanwhile, Mitsubishi's May sales figures just arrived and the company posted a 3.9-percent rise in sales over May of 2005, which follows an even stronger 17.5-percent improvement last month over April of 2005.
[Source: Automotive News via AutoWeek]
Posted Jun 1st 2006 11:57PM by Erin Mays
Filed under: Car Buying, Marketing/Advertising, Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi has thrown down the gauntlet. If dealers can't sell its new products like the Outlander and Lancer, the company may pull out of the United States completely. Mitsubishi's product boss, Shinichi Kurihara said as much at a press event, indicating that the company's recovery rides on the success of the vehicles. The company is down 16.5 percent to 36,536 units so far this year, and its Normal, Ill. plant employs just one shift. Predictably, dealers have responded by urging Mitsubishi brass to open up their wallets and spend more money on advertising here in the States.
Meanwhile, Mitsubishi's May sales figures just arrived and the company posted a 3.9-percent rise in sales over May of 2005, which follows an even stronger 17.5-percent improvement last month over April of 2005.
[Source: Automotive News via AutoWeek]